The Browser Wasn’t Enough, Google Wants To Control All Your Software
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I’m bothered that big companies, especially tech right now, no longer see their customers as people they need to please to stay in business, but instead as something they’ll inconvenience and squeeze as much as they can possibly get away with.
They all got to where they are making, at one point, amazing products. Now? Fuck making windows useful, we can throw ads and AI at you every place we can think of. Fuck all of the parts of Android that made it stand out, we tell you what to install. You don’t want all of your data scraped and sold? Fuck you, there’s 3 of us and we’re all doing it. In fact we’ll never stop finding new ways to harvest data.
Phones have basically stagnated entirely in the US. Sure you get moderately better chipsets, but what else? AI? I haven’t had a phone struggle with anything in… maybe 10 years. Instead features that people didn’t use enough just get removed.
First time?
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Android System SafetyCore - Apps on Google Play
Provides safety features for Android devices.
(play.google.com)
Android System Key Verifier - Apps on Google Play
More secure end-to-end encrypted communications with contact key verification
(play.google.com)
Thanks! I remember safety codes now: it looks at all your pictures and says it only blocks CSAM, but who knows if it is trustworthy or if it misidentifies something.
The other o e from what I can tell is trying to add e2ee to google message? How does it spy?
Edit: https://grouphowto.com/com-google-android-contactkeys/
Looks like it is mostly a good thing?
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First time?
Nah, just cranky about it.
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You can stop using all Google products. Now I understand their market share on the web means they’re going to continue to shape the web.
But make no mistake. There is something, however small, that you can do. De-Google.
The only people who can de google are basically single shut ins with a job that doesnt use anything google.
If you have kids or a company that uses google products. It's a bad fucking joke to talk like it's even a realistic option.
Google is basically shoved down your throat. In most cases by the law literally. Seriously FUCK how tied the public education system is to google now.
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They probably would have to find accommodation for you, although I’m sure it’d be very inconvenient. But still technically there.
As to if you refuse to have your child be issued a Chromebook and Google account, probably not much you can do, as they are providing everything.
My personal answer to this question is the same as if it were an employer issued mandatory Chromebook; me the employee (or my child the student) is a different entity than me the individual. Me the individual refuses to have anything to do with Google, and that’s enough of a fight for me.
Around here if you can't refuse. My coworker is currently fighting that battle. His basically being threatened by the state that he either complies, home schools and compiles with those requirements which still has google requirements. Or he has to deal with the legal penalties of not sending his kid to school.
The accomodations is basically pay out of pocket for a private school. Because there is no accmodation for "free" services. Even the "poor" can do it so it's a non optional expectation.
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I’m bothered that big companies, especially tech right now, no longer see their customers as people they need to please to stay in business, but instead as something they’ll inconvenience and squeeze as much as they can possibly get away with.
They all got to where they are making, at one point, amazing products. Now? Fuck making windows useful, we can throw ads and AI at you every place we can think of. Fuck all of the parts of Android that made it stand out, we tell you what to install. You don’t want all of your data scraped and sold? Fuck you, there’s 3 of us and we’re all doing it. In fact we’ll never stop finding new ways to harvest data.
Phones have basically stagnated entirely in the US. Sure you get moderately better chipsets, but what else? AI? I haven’t had a phone struggle with anything in… maybe 10 years. Instead features that people didn’t use enough just get removed.
Users are the commodity to be traded. They have what they see as a business model that's too big to fail. And the users agree!
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I feel like this is the new normal cycle of every software company. Once they become a leader, it's never enough. It replicates the rise of billionaires. Just as the billionaires being rich beyond anything they and all of their succeeding generations could ever spend is not enough, being the industry leader and producing an amazing product that people want is somehow not enough. It always turns to control and power.
At some point they get large enough that the whims of users cease to affect their decision-making. If Google, Meta, and MS tomorrow rolled out a social credit system that made the Chinese version look generous, 95+% of their users would not change a THING to avoid it. Maybe 98% of their users.
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I came here specifically to ask about alternatives to Android now that google is becoming too abusive in the relationship.
I was looking into it a few ago. I found something made in Europe which advertise as more consumer friendly (Fairphone). If I got it right they want to stand out of the crowd by:
- Selling phones that can be repaired easily;
- Offer a de-googled OS based on Android.
The second point could be interesting, considering this Google abusive behavior towards users. Moreover, there is another thing that caught my attention: their devices (the last one is missing, but maybe it's just too new?) are supported by Ubuntu Touch, which should be just a Linux OS running on phones. That would be my dream, so that I can consider my phone just a computer with all the freedom I can get, such as write down my bash/python/C applications to do what I want to do without having to mess up with all that Android development suite.
However, if I am not mistaken, in the past I heard some bad reviews about Fairphone, so you should perform your due diligence.
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You can stop using all Google products. Now I understand their market share on the web means they’re going to continue to shape the web.
But make no mistake. There is something, however small, that you can do. De-Google.
if I don't use android or iOS, I can't use my banking apps, pay with my phone, access government services as they require an app to sign in, etc. it's just not doable anymore for me
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if I don't use android or iOS, I can't use my banking apps, pay with my phone, access government services as they require an app to sign in, etc. it's just not doable anymore for me
Ignoring the fact that iOS is an option, I bet you’re mostly mistaken and there is a web based or non app option for everything, even if it’s not obvious.
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Yep. There's no such thing as competition any more.
Tech companies are just gas stations across the street from each other.
and you don't have a choice atp its just forced enshittifcation down your throat!!
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This isn't a computer, its a phone.
This isn't a comment, it's negative feedback.
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Does !remindme work on Lemmy?
!remindme 1 day