“You can't be expected to have a successful AI program when every article, book or anything else that you've read or studied, you're supposed to pay for”, President Trump says
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I know it's popular to hate on LLMs here at Lemmy, but what is "Artificial Intelligence" if not "Counterfeiting Thought"? Those words map to each other pretty nicely
Actually, let me add to my statement of it being intentional.
There are things that AI applications can do that humans can't.
AI is all about analyzing large sets of variables and finding things. Take recent studies in pathology where AI can find the patterns of certain disease in tissue specimens. This only works because the enormous dataset that was provided was already vetted by pathologists. I would argue this isn't counterfeiting human thought. This is enhancing an already utilized algorithm trained by doctors. Remember, a pathologist still needs to put their license on the line if they agree with the AI findings.
There is NO accountability in LLMs. To many people it looks like it is thinking, it has understood what the person has said, and considered boundaries that exist in our minds, but maybe not communicated to the LLM.
Thats why I call these AI programs unsuccessful and counterfeit. They're giving users made by possibly unverified and unreliable data with no accountability.
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Actually, I feel a bit dirty about this. Literal decades of file sharing built huge archives that they have used to build their monsters, and also contributing to things like Wikipedia and open source software. Everything good and counterculture we did is now being monetized and used to boil the oceans.
Information should be free. Don’t feel bad because someone abused something good towards a bad end.
The problem here isn’t archives, it’s “AI” and the people behind it.
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Not sure why the knee jerk hate on this one. I like the idea of opening up academic articles and other materials for free and open use.
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Who cares what HE says of all people
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Remember kids: Copyright is only for the rich.
For the poor? the rich dont pay copyright, only grandma who downloaded nothing else matter's mp3
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We shouldn't be calling these AI programs successful. In the slightest. They're counterfeiting human thought and work.
Sometime I wish lemmy had ahah react
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Not sure why the knee jerk hate on this one. I like the idea of opening up academic articles and other materials for free and open use.
Based brain rot pirate president, abolish intellectual property.
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Not sure why the knee jerk hate on this one. I like the idea of opening up academic articles and other materials for free and open use.
It's the fact that it's not free and open use to us, just to the AI trainers. At least that's what the judges seem to be saying at this point.
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So let's pretend we give them all the training data they want for free (which they already have taken illegally)
The buisness model is still non-viable because the energy costs far outweigh any subscriptions they can get. And the tech isn't even good enough for people to want to subscribe at the current prices.
I need to stop believing my own lying eyes.
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Settle down, nerds. TACO just read from the card they gave him. He doesn't think anything about AI. Of course, he'll make the wrong decisions and cause utter chaos and strife but it's not like he has an actual opinion about AI.
What if president brainrot accidentally kills intellectual property, even glitched out cuckoo clocks are right occasionnally by chance!
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Then maybe AI "programs" aren't a good product.
Next it will be, "we can't be expected to make a good murderbot without murdering some people"Proceeds to start wars with every ethnicity to ensure the murder bots are trained to kill all variants of the population. "Of course they have to kill little people, how else will we know that a little person couldn't judo chop them to death."
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Not sure why the knee jerk hate on this one. I like the idea of opening up academic articles and other materials for free and open use.
mb misread the article
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Not sure why the knee jerk hate on this one. I like the idea of opening up academic articles and other materials for free and open use.
Because it's just for training AI, it will never trickle down to you.
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Who cares what HE says of all people
He’s the absolute monarch of a huge country. His opinion matters a lot unfortunately.
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My univeristy library would often have one or two copies of the current textbook on course reserve in the library. This meant that 1) you had to know where the course reserves were, 2) hope you could get it before one of the other 100-150 students also taking that course got it first, and 3) hope some dickhead didn’t just take it off the shelf and hide it in their study carrel or in a quiet corner of the library. Number 3 gets worse the higher the level of degree you are studying.
My library, you have to check out books on reserve from the circulation desk. They're for in-library use only, 3 or 6 hours at a time, and if you take it into a study room and scan the whole thing with your phone we saw nothing.
We don't like the constant churn of textbooks, either. They eat into our budget. We really appreciate when a professor lends us their personal copies of a textbook for us to keep on reserve. We also try and steer instructions to Open Educational Resources (OER), which are available for free.
Wealth disparity sucks and shouldn't result in different access to education.
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And that's why I have an AI training library of movies and TV stored up.
I'll get around to training an AI on it any day now, I'm sure.
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The situation has been made possible by the enormous trust in progress and "technical fashion" that existed recently, that seems to be drying out.
Say, 10-15 years ago offline-enabled means of communication were a matter of toys for people with no clear idea of future.
Now people going to protests use them, and the dangers of mainstream Internet services and platforms are also common knowledge.
So there is some immunity being formed. It's even better that this happens slowly. I would be worried if this were some fashion spreading rapidly, but now we can see one crowd using Briar, another crowd using Bridgefy, another crowd jumping on Jack Dorsey's Bitchat, LoRa and Meshtastic growing in popularity, all those things picking different approaches to the same goal, which signifies evolutionary convergence onto a commonly understood set of problems.
People who were simping for corps no longer do. People who were simping for social media no longer do. People simping for Apple and Google and MS seem to be a rare kind now.
The response is happening.
I hope your right. It's nice to see questioning of America tech gaint's monopolies finally now Trump is making America not seaming a safe supplier. More Europe than the UK, but even here, it's not as fringe to perceive the problem now.
Not enough yet though. Amazon for example has a load of the market, avoids tax's and has loads of stuff that isn't really legal in the market because it doesn't meet the regs. Example, domestic socket EV chargers (granny leads) should be only up to 10A (as it consistent load and wiring quality varies), but most on Amazon are 13A and a few 16A! Hello house fire. Let alone fake CE marking and EMC emissions.
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My thoughts exactly. You can’t expect to have a successful file sharing system if you have to get permission for everything you distribute, you guys!
Well, there are some very successful file sharing systems. That horse did bolt with Napster.
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It's the fact that it's not free and open use to us, just to the AI trainers. At least that's what the judges seem to be saying at this point.
That is not what judges have said. They've said that merely training on text is not a copyright infringement. However, companies that downloaded enormous amounts of pirated texts (i.e., stuff they did not have license to download in the first place) still infringed copyright just like anybody else. Effectively the courts have been holding that if you study material you have license to access, you aren't infringing, but if you pirate that material, even if it is merely to study it, it's still infringing. For better or worse this is basically basically how it's always been.
I have no idea what Trump is proposing. Like most republicans, but especially him, he is incapable of even approaching understanding of nuanced and technical areas of law and/or technology.
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You can't be expected to - broadly understand the world and your place in it - when every article, book, or anything else that you've read or studied, you're supposed to pay for.
