Pixel is build by Foxxcon. Foxxcon has 3.5 stars on Glassdoor.
From what I found Fairphone is build by TCL which has 3.2 stars on Glassdoor.

It's all still made in Asia. It's really hard to monitor conditions there and it's pretty much impossible to monitor conditions at every step of the supply chain. I understand paying extra for a more sustainable phone (repairable, longer support) but paying double for a vague promise of being more "fair"? Thanks by no thanks. Pixel has 8 years of support now so the difference in sustainability is minimal.

This is nice for Europe I guess, and I want to like the fairphone, but unfortunately it's not viable for me.

Besides basic phone features and the ability to run Android apps I have 3 requirements, 2 of which the fairphone fails at. I need it to be usable in the US on my phone carrier. I need to be able to use Google Pay or another mobile payment alternative (that's accepted in most stores). Finally it needs to have at least a 48 hour battery life.

Fairphone unfortunately doesn't work in the US with most carriers, and the one that kills not only it but all the de-googled phones, it doesn't support mobile payment of any kind. I've done a ton of research trying to find some kind of fix for that second point because I'd gladly use something like GrapheneOS if I could, but every time the answer I come to is it's just not possible.

That too has to to with the fact that all of that is an impenetrable black box. Google gets access, but if your oso isn't Google, amor is rooted, they won't allow you access "for security"

Never mind that the banking web version works fine in any OS including Linux, no safety issues there (nor should there be any) but the app? Yeah, Google only and it's all because of security. Uh huh...

I saw list item 1 more as "I want my phone to last for 5+ years, so I will want to replace my battery eventually", rather than "I wanna wreck my battery fast, so it better be replaceable". Being wasteful with your battery like that goes against the spirit of Fairphone, IMO.

There's a deGoogled version too!!

I would prefer GrapheneOS (If I can live with the irony of getting a Pixel phone just to deGoogle it...). Sandboxing there is way better. But you lose the Repairability.. Gotta check and compare the new EU metrics too.

They are just two different devices.

You can shoot RAW on your phone today.

Surely, that impacts the battery longevity, right? Personally, I disable all fast-charging features and charge my phone overnight.

P.S. Sorry for calling you Shirley.

I know I know, but it was really convenient to keep a spare battery and do a quick swap on the fp4.

Yep... everyone wants phablets. Apparently.

I don't mind the cutouts (if done right), they just sit in the notification bar, so they never obscure anything anyway. That's a place Sony could have shaved off the extra height imo, the top and bottom bezels are pretty unnecessary.

We are slowly moving to under-screen cameras now though.

I disagree about this being a good solution. USB-C is not meant to take the strain of being used as an audio port when being used in the go so there is risk of damaging the port while a headphone jack is more stable and allows the plug to rotate. Plus I don't want to have a dingle I can forget when in a rush.

This is nice for Europe I guess, and I want to like the fairphone, but unfortunately it's not viable for me.

Besides basic phone features and the ability to run Android apps I have 3 requirements, 2 of which the fairphone fails at. I need it to be usable in the US on my phone carrier. I need to be able to use Google Pay or another mobile payment alternative (that's accepted in most stores). Finally it needs to have at least a 48 hour battery life.

Fairphone unfortunately doesn't work in the US with most carriers, and the one that kills not only it but all the de-googled phones, it doesn't support mobile payment of any kind. I've done a ton of research trying to find some kind of fix for that second point because I'd gladly use something like GrapheneOS if I could, but every time the answer I come to is it's just not possible.

I had a phone without before, that one came with a simple cheap passive adapter for USB-C to 3.5mm headset. You lose out on using headphones while charging, but other than that I was never really inconvenienced...

This is nice for Europe I guess, and I want to like the fairphone, but unfortunately it's not viable for me.

Besides basic phone features and the ability to run Android apps I have 3 requirements, 2 of which the fairphone fails at. I need it to be usable in the US on my phone carrier. I need to be able to use Google Pay or another mobile payment alternative (that's accepted in most stores). Finally it needs to have at least a 48 hour battery life.

Fairphone unfortunately doesn't work in the US with most carriers, and the one that kills not only it but all the de-googled phones, it doesn't support mobile payment of any kind. I've done a ton of research trying to find some kind of fix for that second point because I'd gladly use something like GrapheneOS if I could, but every time the answer I come to is it's just not possible.

Only with primary lens

I think you need a camera, not a phone

It's not hard to manufacture a headphone jack. We've been doing it since the 80s. Probably costs them a penny BOM.

All I needed to know was when they released their BT earbuds just when the jack port got removed to figure out where their priorities are.

I don't think his point was the jack itself but the device around the jack. Physically and electronically.