YouTube might slow down your videos if you block ads
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The problem is, nothing short of NA and EU governmental intervention will force Google to stop being such a nefarious, monopolistic, antitrust piece of shit. They're just so utterly ubiquitous for Western businesses. You cannot have a small business* and hope to be successful without partaking in either Google or Facebook/Meta's ad services. TikTok was becoming a huge threat to both those companies and look how viciously they were attacked.
The whole thing is beyond fucked, man. Kudos to you for trying to break free for your business, but I feel like you'll just be fucking yourself in the long run.
Edit in advance: I should clarify that there will of course be exceptions where a small business can be successful just fine without advertising, but for those that rely on being discovered on a larger scale versus purely local, it is essential.
Agree with this. For my business, and most customer facing ones honestly, Google is how people discover you. They are the modern day Yellow Pages. You don’t exist on Google and you may as well not exist. It sucks but they have that much of a stranglehold. This is why everyone is shitting themselves over Google using AI (it’s harder/unknown how to game).
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Time to pin Odysee and Peertube in my browser even though I pay for YT Premium (only $2 per month here in BD).
Holy crap that’s cheap! Honestly, I’d pay that.
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Umm.... Maybe. Let's take a look.
In the first quarter of 2025, Google's revenue amounted to over 89.52 billion U.S. dollars, up from the 79.97 billion U.S. dollars registered in the same quarter a year prior.
... They'll survive.
I guess the content creators take the hit when users block ads or refuse to use premium.
Edit: your addendum is false. Technically YouTube freely delivers (answers http gets and posts), the user just refuses to watch all of their content or take part in the tracking. No broken windows or climbed fences.
It’s the same mentality of, we shouldn’t mute ads or go to the bathroom when they come on. That’s the advertising businesses problem, not mine. They haven’t made life better for most of us and I refuse to feel guilty of depriving them of money.
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If I thought that way about YouTube, why not just be a sovcit about laws in general? I don't want to cherry pick philosophy. Let's go all in on technicalities and loopholes and definitions and wording. Life is a video game where X leads to Y because that's the rules. YouTube is merely answering requests, and I'm merely watching a curated selection of data. They have a TOS but I never agreed to it. For I'm not a user or customer, but a Netizen, and we have rights.
about laws in general
Terms of Service aren't laws. Breaking them is not illegal. It's like using the waterslide while sitting and not lying on your back. In fact, it's explicitly legal to use an adblocker and control what happens on your device in both the EU and the US. There are ongoing debates whether the surveillance required for blocking adblockers is legal in the EU.
Google does break laws all the time by the way, and is holding a monopoly. If people had to pay for Youtube, alternatives would spring up overnight, but since you can still watch Youtube free, they can't.
Also, I'd be the happiest person if Google finally figured out how to block people with adblockers completely, so that the majority of people would wean themselves off of one of the world's biggest disinfo peddlers.
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If you are a content creator please consider upload your content on other video platforms too.
The trouble with that is that there is barely any money outside of YouTube.
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If you are a content creator please consider upload your content on other video platforms too.
Bro those Mf should’ve started doing that YEARS ago like…
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The trouble with that is that there is barely any money outside of YouTube.
They can upload to multiple platforms at once and still keep their YouTube money + grow an audience on a different website??
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They can upload to multiple platforms at once and still keep their YouTube money + grow an audience on a different website??
Yeah, some of the Linux Youtubers do that. With a channel on Peertube as well. And Science Youtubers often advertise Nebula.
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For about the last 3 years I've been hearing about YouTube cracking down on ad blockers. Not once has it affected my. Ublock still stops ads on the browser. Revanced stops em on the phone.
I've been getting them over the last week or so on both Chrome at work (Ublock lite) and Firefox at home (UBlock Origin). It's just a popup telling me adblockers aren't allowed and then a second smaller popup saying something to the effect of "loading issues?" with a link as the video delays playing for a few seconds.
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If I thought that way about YouTube, why not just be a sovcit about laws in general? I don't want to cherry pick philosophy. Let's go all in on technicalities and loopholes and definitions and wording. Life is a video game where X leads to Y because that's the rules. YouTube is merely answering requests, and I'm merely watching a curated selection of data. They have a TOS but I never agreed to it. For I'm not a user or customer, but a Netizen, and we have rights.
I learned the term sovcit. Interesting concept, it isn't mine though.
You sound angry because there are multiple point of views for a thing and I don't agree with your pov. I think i get the gist of your reply. But without arguments this discussion is bound to go nowhere.
You say I'm wrong by using adblocking. You didn't tell why.
- depriving content creators of their revenue. Yes. One should think about supporting them through donation platforms like Patreon. They get money from direct marketing (holy...) - I'm fine with that (no JavaScript, no tracking, I can skip ahead since I got the message the first time).
- depriving YouTube of the money they need to run their CDN. Partially. Bandwidth usage, maintenance costs. Should I mention that youtube sells/ licenses servers to ISPs... So they get paid by me, indirectly.
- TOS I didn't sign anything, there is no contract between me and YouTube. Or is there one?
Edit: this is not about me wanting you to take my view or wanting to be convinced by you. You may disagree or even despise me. That's fine.
Everyone has to decide for himself what's right and wrong and life with it. And maybe I have to rethink my decisions if there are aspects I didn't take into account or if I lied to me to justify my decisions. -
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YouTube can die in a fire and take its fucking premium with it.
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I mean like the downloading aspect. There are a lot of youtube downloading tools available for practically every OS desktop or mobile (well except iOS)
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Youtube acting like it has anything to offer aside slop and people who think they're philosopher kings because they play video games.
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Can't slow down videos I've downloaded to my Plex server.
No, but Plex can. I'd migrate to Jellyfin if you can as Plex started paywalling some of their services.
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Youtube acting like it has anything to offer aside slop and people who think they're philosopher kings because they play video games.
Sounds like projection but hey, you do you, it's not as if we can learn from video games right
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Idk how one gets content on Nebula, but I wish more creators would join. Ik nebula isn’t Fediverse like PeerTube, but I still really like it and think it’s worth the $30/year to not get ads.
Then support them monetarilly
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We need to find ways to pressurize the content creators to upload to alternative platforms like Odysee, Rumble, Nebula, Peertube, Misskey etc...
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Technically that's 100% buffering.
Technically VLC buffers 1.5 seconds by default which actually broke streaming over SSHFS (phone's filesystem mounted via KDE Connect) for me, had to increase buffer to 10 secs
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It's a tarpit. If they simply displayed a blocked "no vids for u" message, you'd get outraged, go complain online, look for workarounds, and eventually find a bypass. If everything still works but poorly, you get annoyed, turn off your adblocker to troubleshoot, possibly blame the adblocker for being "buggy" and keep it off. Their help page solution implies they are hoping for just that. There is no "smoking gun" blocked message to go complain online about, even though it is indeed their servers that are degrading your connection on purpose in secret. Or maybe you give up and leave their ecosystem entirely, which is no big loss for them.
The proper solution is to develop an adblock that they cannot detect is blocking ads. This may require actually downloading the ad video in background, and then lying that the video has played.
I've been wondering about that, also perhaps a browser where your mouse position has seperate client and software side states? I know a lot of data can be gleaned from mouse movements so if the browser only updated its internal cursor position when you actually clicked that would potentially cut out that source of information?
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"Might"? They're already doing it.
YouTube in Firefox with Ublock Origin is getting throttled down to 1500kbps. I can't watch anything above 720p on my desktop anymore (with gigabit internet).
YouTube ReVanced on mobile and SmartTube Next on the TV still thankfully work without issues.
