And why do you think they have zero budget? The government lol. You think if the same government takes over SpaceX they'll all of a sudden give them the huge budget that they need?

You haven't put your eggs in any basket. SpaceX are a private company. The government owns NASA, they can pour money into that and hire people to do what SpaceX are doing. Hell, they could poach people from SpaceX!

Why do you think they haven't already done this? Because the government don't care about it. If someone else will do it they can use them to provide their services via ludicrously expensive contracts, and give them massive subsidies, as is the Government way.

The government taking over SpaceX is not something anyone with even half a brain should be wanting. It makes ZERO sense. It doesn't matter who owns it privately, just not the government because they will fuck it up and/or neglect it - like they did with NASA and most of their other projects.

It's not up to SpaceX to stop taking government handouts - it's up to the government to stop giving handouts.

I agree with you - they shouldn't get public funding. IMO anything the government funds they should own instead, but this doesn't mean they should take ownership of the things that they fund - they should instead use that funding to start their own taxpayer owned competitor.

I'm completely against government handouts for private business and NGOs btw.

And isn't it amazing how little government entities can do despite being given the same or more taxpayer dollars from the federal teat?

Private enterprise gets shit done because if they don't they go out of business and people lose their jobs, money, and livelihood. Government departments don't get shit done because they'll all keep their jobs and their pensions and their benefits no matter what. Again - NASA vs SpaceX.

Nobody thinks about that, just about hitting the people they don't like. They don't think of consequences, they don't think that nationalization means humongous companies and wealth in fact changing hands in favor of people who already control the government.

That's every fascist regime in history BTW - make your natural opponents hang themselves. Like in Russia in 1999 groups people most hurt by Yeltsin's regime were deceived into voting for Putin, because he managed to create that "Soviet intelligence agent" image, despite being continuation of said regime. Or again in 2004, when he managed to take credit for growing oil prices, which meant that said groups of people feared literal starvation less, and the factor they've grown by compared to 1998 was so huge, that Russia's level of life really didn't catch up, but that was enough. Hold people in misery, throw them bones, they'll be grateful.

Also why most Russians gloated over Khodorkovsky, Berezovsky, other oligarchs being beaten by Putin.

Cause the oligarchs seemed the face of that regime, except Putin was its soul materialized. They somehow thought that when he hurts all the oligarchs enough, things will be good.

If NASA had as many rockets explode as SpaceX has, people like you would be screaming about the waste of taxpayer dollars.

The point of the launches that have ended in explosion were to test various parts of the systems and hardware, and to learn if/when a "disaster" does happen. That's how you improve things, make them better and safer. Would you prefer when we finally send people to the moon or to Mars that it's the first time we've launched that rocket? Those explosions weren't bad things.

Did you stop reading after the first part of my sentence?

You say "failed", engineers say "ok what have we learned and what can we improve/fix from this?". These launches are tests. Every single launch is testing every single part of the hardware and software. Tests failing isn't a bad thing, as it helps you fix problems and make things better.

LOL "We should NOT be like them."
And then starts talking about health insurance. What health insurance?
You can only dream of being like Cuba.
But your shithole country keeps licking the boots and are good little servants of the oligarch ruling class.
And that's great, you deserve all you get, all you do is comlain and cry about it online anyway.

Any political take from Jacobin can be safely ignored.

You haven’t put your eggs in any basket.

$38 billion in government funding. huh.

what reality do you live in?

That's not putting eggs in a basket, that's just wasteful government as always. The same government that you guys want to take control of SpaceX lol.

Don't give bail-outs to billionaires.

Stay uneducated, loser

Dude… nationalize just means the US takes ownership of the company. They keep all the employees they keep all the customers. It runs like normal under new ownership. The taxpayers now own it. it’s a great idea.

You see too long we have been using public funding and allowing rich people to privatize the gains. It’s time to privatize those games and take back what we invested in as US citizens. We will still offer you eurocucks Internet since apparently it is more important than having a moral fiber in your body

Seriously this comment doesn’t make any sense. It’s like you do not understand what you are commenting on and yet here you are with four up votes and now have my down vote and go forth and use a dictionary before you comment next time

I agreed with this sentiment six months ago, but now I like public hangings and nationalizing companies

Nice 30-year-old Fox News talking points you got there. Time to go to bed, grandpa.

I hate tankies, but not as much as I hate Nazis. Desperate times call for desperate measures. We’re losing 100 years of social advancement. But here you are telling us to protect the fucking corporations that are sucking them up.

Isn't that part of the grift?

At the time it looked like one of the main reasons to launch Starlink was to provide SpaceX with a new market, much larger than the usual space launching stuff. Also this meant Felon could get subsidies through 2 different companies.