YouTube is now flagging accounts on Premium family plans that aren't in the same household
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Technically, yes, most sites won't have such sophisticated logic. But any Google, Microsoft, or Meta service you use most definitely will.
I really liked CreepJS's "Visits" feature where it would show a counter for how many people have visited with exactly the same browser fingerprint (which would usually be 1 unless you were using Tor Browser or Mullvad Browser), but they seem to have removed it for some reason along with "Lies" and "Trust Score". You can still check it out here though to see just how much identifying information even a simple hobby project can gather in less than a second.
That’s a good example of why the goal should be to find services which are less intrusive and less monitoring heavy.
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Firefox + ublock origin still works to block all YouTube ads
Invidious is a frontend for YouTube that blocks all their trackers and ads
PeerTube is an alternative community ran platform to replace YouTube in the future
ff+ubo+privacy badger (ff on my distro suggested privacy badger, can't remember exact number but when ubo blocks over ~1k privacy badger has like 2 - 4 on it, surprising me a little there are not more trackers) on pc, my phone has no adblocking atm and I know their info on me is wrong because all I do see are gambling ads and I have never gone to a gambling site, I don't even get the scam game ads my gf does on her phone. One day I may try out one of the "delete my dam info" places just to see how much they really have on me
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That’s a good example of why the goal should be to find services which are less intrusive and less monitoring heavy.
I don't think there are any services that can compare to YouTube in any way.
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Meanwhile on Steam my "family" consists of 3 adults with different addresses, last names, and credit cards, who have had accounts for decades and never lived at the same place.
We have full access to each other's library.
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What I'm not ok with YouTube premium :
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The price is too high for a subscription. For that price I could get thousands of movies on a competing service like Netflix.
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Even if you take YouTube premium they are still farming your data and selling it to third parties.
So even if I watch a ton of YT I refuse to pay to sell my data.
If I pay for YT they have to not track me and not sell my data (at least data coming from YT).
So yeah taking YT is hassle free but is quite the scam if you think about it. Before paying you were the product. After paying you are still the product but on top of that you give them money.
I think the price is a far better deal than Netflix. Even when I had Netflix, basically all I watched was Breaking Bad. Shows I like or want to view now just live on my media server. It came to a point I couldn't find anything interesting to watch and cancelled it. I don't remember the last time I watched an actual movie. There is so much more than I'll ever have the time to watch on Youtube. If they want to use what I watch to attempt to show me ads I'm very likely never going to see elsewhere, I honestly don't care. They are going to try to show me ads which will almost certainly get blocked, anyway. I'm not watching anything on Youtube I wouldn't mind telling anyone about anyway.
I don't feel scammed, and it impacts my day-to-day life in no ways aside from saving me time having to fiddle with my network for 30 minutes every time an actual video won't load because I'm trying to block a 30-second ad at the router.
Netflix also sells data to 3rd party marketing services.
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Meanwhile on Steam my "family" consists of 3 adults with different addresses, last names, and credit cards, who have had accounts for decades and never lived at the same place.
We have full access to each other's library.
While steam has historically been "good", doesn't mean it'll stay that way...
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While steam has historically been "good", doesn't mean it'll stay that way...
Sure, the 2 constants in the universe are Entropy and Enshitification. When Steam turns to shit I'll go back to Piracy just like I did when Netflix went to shit.
My point is that companies don't have to be shit about account sharing and family plans, and people don't have to accept it.
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ff+ubo+privacy badger (ff on my distro suggested privacy badger, can't remember exact number but when ubo blocks over ~1k privacy badger has like 2 - 4 on it, surprising me a little there are not more trackers) on pc, my phone has no adblocking atm and I know their info on me is wrong because all I do see are gambling ads and I have never gone to a gambling site, I don't even get the scam game ads my gf does on her phone. One day I may try out one of the "delete my dam info" places just to see how much they really have on me
Just use Firefox Mobile to watch YouTube.
Ad blocking through uBO and can enable playing with locked screen.
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Seeing the number of dead torrents, it’s highly likely that many videos will quickly die as well
But it would be nice to have a way to seed.
Problem with all federated platforms: which one should people pick? Most instances don’t federate with others
highly likely that many videos will quickly die as well
Ideally, everyone would just post their own stuff from their own disk. As things got popular, the fans would cache it for others. We'd just need the self-hosting angels to help us with discoverability.
Realistically, a quick death is probably a fortunate way to save resources if a video can't gain traction from being useful or entertaining.
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*available on all platforms and browsers (including iOS/iPadOS)
uBlock Origin is also available on iOS/iPadOS but only through the Orion browser. It would be nice if other browsers figured out how to allow Firefox extensions too but so far it looks to just be Orion.
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YouTube is my only subscription.
I use it for Music and Video. I definitely get my money's worth, they're streaming to me at least 8 hours a day.
If it's not background music, it's videos. I can't even fathom how many hours of ads I have avoided.
I've never seen a single youtube ad with uBlock Origin. SponsorBlock takes care of most of the sponsored segments that a premium youtube account won't get rid of.
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How does one pirate free videos? Is there somebody uploading torrents of YouTube videos?
when all the videos get put behind login walls and drm, perhaps someone will.
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I'll join you in the downvotes. There's many reasons to hate YouTube. Asking them to pay for video content to everyone for free is a bit silly.
I'm also not saying you shouldn't use alternatives or run an ad-blocker. Those are cool. I just find it funny how someone is saying: "I get some benefit in paying for this service" results in such backlash, lol.
I know. I thought we were upvoting respectful debate, not having a popularity contest. But apparently not…
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It's a "product" that profits billions off other people's - often stolen - works.
YouTube steals other people’s work?
I tend to watch content creators who willingly put their content on YouTube. Am I missing something here…?
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Do you have a means of removing sponsors on the mobile app though? Revanced has sponsorblock and adblock in the app.
You mean removing sponsor led segments inside a video? Sort of. The jump ahead feature, which I think is a premium feature, allows you to jump in the video based on where everywhere else is jumping in the video. So when a sponsored segment starts and you skip forward 30s (double tap on mobile, ‘k’ on PC) you are offered to jump ahead. You click that and you get to the end of the sponsored segment.
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Wow, shilling for YouTube premium and anti-net-neutrality (the "discount through your phone company" part) in one comment.
Is recommending a product that you’re satisfied with “shilling”?
Is there a product in this world that you think is worth the price? Does that make you a shill?
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and it's a multi-billion dollar corporation, that already makes more money than you or I will ever see in our lifetimes, that actively strives to make the user experience worse for people who don't pay, when they've got a practical monopoly in the "free video sharing platform" market. And you're whiteknighting for them.
By Darwin you see a lot. I was merely stating that I think YouTube premium is worth the price I pay for it.
Is there no product you are satisfied with? Your life must be pretty bleak.
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actively strives to make the user experience worse for people who don't pay
And evidently those who do! My parents live in a different country. What are they, not my family? What's the family plan for? (Rhetorical question)
With Vanced I have so many more options to customize my experience. I can hide shorts I never watch, set a fixed resolution for data and wifi, return the stupid dislike ratio they removed... And if I'm using Vanced anyway to fix all the issues they introduce, why on earth would I additionally pay for their service?
I want to pay for their shit, especially to support content creators, but I can't support a platform whose singular mission it is to make everything worse for everyone constantly. Feels like every month I have to get a new extension to undo some horrible design decision.
I agree that it would make more sense if they called it a “household” plan. That’s clearly what it is.
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One would wonder how they'd know that but then again, one knows.
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I suspect Google won't care if they "accidentally" lock VPN users out of YouTube Premium.
Considering 50% of gen Z use vpns, I think they might need to reconsider
