OpenAI’s Sam Altman warns of AI voice fraud crisis in banking
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ha, I thought it was just a movie trope
I wish. My bank has been trying to get me to do that shit for years when I call in.
"YoUr VoIcE iS yOuR pAsSwOrD" - no, my fucking password is my password, and this voice print shit was an obvious security hole from day 1, which is why I always answered that I didn't consent to their bullshit.
I argued with my old bank for ages about this and they continued to insist enabling it on my account was a great idea.
The film Sneakers showed the world why voice ID was a massive security hole and an all-around crappy idea back in 1992, and some idiots are still insisting it's a good idea in 2025 when it's only become astronomically easier to beat than Robert Redford and friends demonstrated.
In my case, I've been doing radio, podcasting, and other voice work for a long time and as a result there are hundreds and hundreds of hours of my voice freely available out there. People can cut and paste me saying "my voice is my passport, verify me" or anything else they like together in Audacity, no AI needed, and fool any telephone-based audio security computer on the planet with it. And explaining this in-person to the branch manager of my former bank elicited nothing more than the blankest expression I'd seen since the pet goldfish I had as a kid.
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There's no way that the phone network has enough fidelity to be able to accurately transmit your voice anyway. People who sound similar to you will be able to get in.
Exactly. It always seemed like something that would be broken and used as an excuse that it was my fault they didn't secure their shit
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Oh no, this tool that EVERY FUCKING ONE said would be very helpful for fraudsters and scammers is going to cause a crisis! WHO COULDA PREDITED IT???????????
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Oh he seriously needs to shut up.
He spends his entire time now telling everybody how a product, he is insisting on building, is going to kill us all.
You would have thought that if you were building a doomsday bomb but didn't want to die it'd be pretty easy to just stop building said bomb. But nope everyday he continues making it more and more destructive.
the problem is "he" isn't the only one building AI. If it wasn't openAI it would have been someone else. And soon almost anyone with small business level of resources will be able to have an AI platform at their disposal.
I'm not saying the guy is a paragon of virtue or anything, but a voice from within the industry should be valuable to get legislators on board to do something about it. Not that I have great faith in them either.
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You'd have to be real ignorant of technology to accept any form of voice or face recognition to gain access to anything - even your phone.
Use a code or a pattern, everyone. This is to protect you from bad cops as much as it is to protect you from bad criminals.
I'm actually really annoyed I can't do two factor on my phone (e.g. Fingerprint + password).
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the problem is "he" isn't the only one building AI. If it wasn't openAI it would have been someone else. And soon almost anyone with small business level of resources will be able to have an AI platform at their disposal.
I'm not saying the guy is a paragon of virtue or anything, but a voice from within the industry should be valuable to get legislators on board to do something about it. Not that I have great faith in them either.
Open AI started it though. They published the original research paper that made all of this possible.
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I am the system administrator. My voice is my
passwordpassport. Verify me.*passport
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*passport
Been way too long since I played that game. Amusingly, it's not easy to get running on Linux (last time I checked, at least)
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You'd have to be real ignorant of technology to accept any form of voice or face recognition to gain access to anything - even your phone.
Use a code or a pattern, everyone. This is to protect you from bad cops as much as it is to protect you from bad criminals.
I'm actually really annoyed I can't do two factor on my phone (e.g. Fingerprint + password).
I had to call into my bank recently and had to listen through what was effectively an ad to sign up for their voice authentication service. All the while I'm thinking, "How dare you implement this crap when you don't even support TOTP or security keys."
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Does anyone actually think he's a genius? He's clearly a moron of the highest degree.
Failing upwards.
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I had to call into my bank recently and had to listen through what was effectively an ad to sign up for their voice authentication service. All the while I'm thinking, "How dare you implement this crap when you don't even support TOTP or security keys."
Fortunately mine does both. I use Fidelity as my "bank" mostly because they offer Symantec VIP, which is at least a form of TOTP.
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the problem is "he" isn't the only one building AI. If it wasn't openAI it would have been someone else. And soon almost anyone with small business level of resources will be able to have an AI platform at their disposal.
I'm not saying the guy is a paragon of virtue or anything, but a voice from within the industry should be valuable to get legislators on board to do something about it. Not that I have great faith in them either.
He was the first and he is the only one trying to make open ia for-profit ia. Even fucking Facebook can make their ia model open source.
I think is move to legislator is just to put concurrent to disadvantage. The same way he cried when deepseek got out such funny enough won't do nothing since he pushed for a law that literally said that ia can t be legally restrain for 20 year -
You'd have to be real ignorant of technology to accept any form of voice or face recognition to gain access to anything - even your phone.
Use a code or a pattern, everyone. This is to protect you from bad cops as much as it is to protect you from bad criminals.
I'm actually really annoyed I can't do two factor on my phone (e.g. Fingerprint + password).
I'm actually really annoyed I can't do two factor
2 Factor 2 Furious
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He wants AI to become strictly regulated so no one can catch up to his stagnating bullshit engine.
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I am rich so write what I said.
