Can Recall not just be turned off?

For an update or two, at least. Windows features tend to get turned back on after updates quite frequently.

Any workplace with halfway decent IT will disable it by default.

Which may be about 50% of workplaces, but still.

Hmm, I have kinda opposite opinion, hardware is pretty good, build quality is great, but the OS itself is meh. File manager is bad and clunky, desktop customization is very limited, network manager is buggy, especially with VPNs, no built-in functionality to import VPN config files like in Linux. Also, I used it for years and still couldn't get used to all the shortcuts and "Mac-way"s of doing things. Just not for me perhaps. Not bad, but in terms of UX worse than both Windows and Linux for me.

They act like Windows (minus lots of the good stuff) too.

What's easier in Windows compared to Linux?

Graphics drivers. I can't say I ever had a graphics driver update in Windows that rendered my system borderline unusable, but I 100% blame Nvidia for me running windows until recently. I tried a dozen times over a decade and ended up back on windows when the Nvidia update trashed my system and I got sick of dealing with it.

On team green and running Bazzite with no issues

I'm the opposite of both of you. The build quality is good and the OS is good. I love having a familiat UNIX system while also having a polished desktop environment that supports 4k scaling very well (though the polish has been lacking a lot lately)

The issue for me is the insane price of their computers and the fact that you can't (officially) install MacOS on your own hardware. I have a Linux desktop and a MBP but I'd run MacOS on both if it was officially supported

I'm probably going to have to move to 11 at some point (Linux isn't for me right now), but I would like to be able to disable as much bloatware as possible. Vigilance it is then.

You might say that they are being so very... Brave.

tap tap ... is this thing on?

Modern Mac hardware is excellent. The software is good too, but’s more a matter of taste. Not everybody likes how macOS works but Asahi Linux has made incredible progress so it’s a daily driver option for some already.

There's one in every thread.

They kind of just ignore that the crypto feature is opt-in.

Actually, Linux doesn't block windows, it just isn't windows.

Just reason saying.

(venting frustration)

I'd argue with the installer point - if it's in the repo, and it almost always is for anything a newbie would be using, it's actually easier. Search, click, done. BUT...

Drivers though, specifically companies not supporting Linux drivers, is shit. I'm helping a friend transition to Linux and am dual-booting myself so I can help with the actual os available for troubleshooting. And fuck me, sound drivers fucking suck ass on Linux. It's because Creative is a bitch and won't make Linux drivers, but also apparently literally nobody is both running a creative card and anything above 2.0 speaker setup. I have two creative cards, a decade apart, neither works with my 5.1 speaker setup. FL and FR work, the rest are some sort of fucked and come from an incorrect speaker(s). One of these cards is like 15 years old now, and nobody has noticed or rectified it. And if I reboot straight from windows to Linux, the sound is mangled. I need to shut the system down and boot it cold. Then FL and FR work. Hours of troubleshooting last week got me absolutely no progress.

Then I need software for my Logitech g903 (there is 3rd party software available) that does profiles and switches on the fly based on the application in the foreground (crickets).

Then there is an issue where if my monitor goes to sleep, when I wake it up I get patches of graphical artifacts. On the 2D desktop. Every few seconds, for about a quarter of a second. Random location each time. Random size. I'm on a Radeon 7900 XTX, which isn't terribly new now. But the friend I'm helping, no issues at all with drivers or hardware. An older 6700 XT. But come the fuck on.

Both of us are on bazzite (I suggested it so they wouldn't nuke the system as they learn) so it's just Fedora silverblue with a few tweaks, not some out-there distro.

And, shit. If you need cellular connectivity on Linux, as far as I can tell you're fucked if you don't go the Ubuntu route. Debian doesn't work, Fedora doesn't work, Mint doesn't work, I went down a rabbit-hole and tried a dozen distros. I ended up with kubuntu, since I wanted kde, but I tried anything just to see what would work. This is on a modern ThinkPad, still under (extended) warranty. I thought ThinkPads and Linux were supposed to be like this holy-grail of free-as-in-freedom computing? Ugh.

So yeah if you have a basic system, aged a bit, nothing special, it works well. Take one step outside of that perfect-scenario bubble, and paaaaaain.

The sad thing is that you now have to protect yourself against the OS you are using. Feels a bit like in the movie TRON.

When they rolled out the update that removed the toggle for it, I remember seeing steps for how to disable it via regedit or tools which would do that for you, all with the warnings of future updates may re-enable it.

I haven’t moved from W10 yet so I’m kinda ootl on it, but that’s what I remember

Brave's CEO is a homophobic Trump supporter. No thanks.

installation of software on Linux is very bad. Literally everything else on Linux is very ready for the mass market, but installing apps is horrible to the point of making the whole OS not ready for the general public

The fact that the dev behind brave is a homophobe isn't opt in though...

The dev behind Brave isn't part of Brave anymore.