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    At first, I thought I would settle for just the AI summary posted by a commenter on this thread. But then I felt intrigued and decided to skim through the blog. I didn't read it all for lack of time.

    And now I feel compelled to enter another comment to say this blog is so beautifully written - and likely conveys ideas that many of us can relate to. I'm very impressed.

    Thank you, OP!

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    I remember 2007, when I got a gmail account and thought it was a much better alternative to whatever I had before.

    Google used to nurture an image of being the “good one” among megacorps; they championed open standards (except when they didn’t), supported open source projects (until they backstabbed them), and used language that corporate wasn’t supposed to use, like “don’t be evil” (until they, infamously and in a true dark comedy move, retracted that motto).

    my main job was to fix boring bugs on the Ruby on Rails internal user accounting system that someone else had developed. When I complained that this was a far cry from the academia-like, exciting research environment I had been promised, and asked to be assigned to a more challenging project, I was told the following rationale against it: “no”. Moreover the deadlines and expectations were such that even if I worked (unpaid) overtime every day, I was still was at risk of a performance review. Making actual use of the “20% time” felt like a pipe dream.

    And all that with wages well below even the local market in our crumbling Third World economy.

    Like most employees I blamed myself for not working hard enough to get good compensation—or to have time to exercise my right of 20% free time… Until I saw in the “Googlegeist” statistics that some 95% of employees never use their “20% time” at all, being trapped under the same pressures as I was.

    When she dared bring it up, this was the reaction - and I know this scenario all too well though I never worked at Google:

    The result of this was my boss having a fit over me “backstabbing” him. See, me complaining about the unfulfilled recruiter promises marked me as an Unhappy Googler. And Google, if you remember, was the Best Place To Work.

    I said, “But the issue is real and not my fault, don’t you agree? I just used the data to bring it to attention. Didn't you say we operate under 'radical transparency'?” (I was young and believed in this kind of slogan. Yes, I was a sitting duck and didn’t stand a chance.)

    Boss replied, "Radical transparency doesn't mean you get to say negative things."


    edit: the article is barely getting started at this point and I'm still reading with great interest. Please give this blog a click even if they say they don't care about it.

  • I remember 2007, when I got a gmail account and thought it was a much better alternative to whatever I had before.

    Google used to nurture an image of being the “good one” among megacorps; they championed open standards (except when they didn’t), supported open source projects (until they backstabbed them), and used language that corporate wasn’t supposed to use, like “don’t be evil” (until they, infamously and in a true dark comedy move, retracted that motto).

    my main job was to fix boring bugs on the Ruby on Rails internal user accounting system that someone else had developed. When I complained that this was a far cry from the academia-like, exciting research environment I had been promised, and asked to be assigned to a more challenging project, I was told the following rationale against it: “no”. Moreover the deadlines and expectations were such that even if I worked (unpaid) overtime every day, I was still was at risk of a performance review. Making actual use of the “20% time” felt like a pipe dream.

    And all that with wages well below even the local market in our crumbling Third World economy.

    Like most employees I blamed myself for not working hard enough to get good compensation—or to have time to exercise my right of 20% free time… Until I saw in the “Googlegeist” statistics that some 95% of employees never use their “20% time” at all, being trapped under the same pressures as I was.

    When she dared bring it up, this was the reaction - and I know this scenario all too well though I never worked at Google:

    The result of this was my boss having a fit over me “backstabbing” him. See, me complaining about the unfulfilled recruiter promises marked me as an Unhappy Googler. And Google, if you remember, was the Best Place To Work.

    I said, “But the issue is real and not my fault, don’t you agree? I just used the data to bring it to attention. Didn't you say we operate under 'radical transparency'?” (I was young and believed in this kind of slogan. Yes, I was a sitting duck and didn’t stand a chance.)

    Boss replied, "Radical transparency doesn't mean you get to say negative things."


    edit: the article is barely getting started at this point and I'm still reading with great interest. Please give this blog a click even if they say they don't care about it.

    You expressed it better than I ever could. I feel the same way!

  • At first, I thought I would settle for just the AI summary posted by a commenter on this thread. But then I felt intrigued and decided to skim through the blog. I didn't read it all for lack of time.

    And now I feel compelled to enter another comment to say this blog is so beautifully written - and likely conveys ideas that many of us can relate to. I'm very impressed.

    Thank you, OP!

    AI summary? 😲

  • I remember 2007, when I got a gmail account and thought it was a much better alternative to whatever I had before.

    Google used to nurture an image of being the “good one” among megacorps; they championed open standards (except when they didn’t), supported open source projects (until they backstabbed them), and used language that corporate wasn’t supposed to use, like “don’t be evil” (until they, infamously and in a true dark comedy move, retracted that motto).

    my main job was to fix boring bugs on the Ruby on Rails internal user accounting system that someone else had developed. When I complained that this was a far cry from the academia-like, exciting research environment I had been promised, and asked to be assigned to a more challenging project, I was told the following rationale against it: “no”. Moreover the deadlines and expectations were such that even if I worked (unpaid) overtime every day, I was still was at risk of a performance review. Making actual use of the “20% time” felt like a pipe dream.

    And all that with wages well below even the local market in our crumbling Third World economy.

    Like most employees I blamed myself for not working hard enough to get good compensation—or to have time to exercise my right of 20% free time… Until I saw in the “Googlegeist” statistics that some 95% of employees never use their “20% time” at all, being trapped under the same pressures as I was.

    When she dared bring it up, this was the reaction - and I know this scenario all too well though I never worked at Google:

    The result of this was my boss having a fit over me “backstabbing” him. See, me complaining about the unfulfilled recruiter promises marked me as an Unhappy Googler. And Google, if you remember, was the Best Place To Work.

    I said, “But the issue is real and not my fault, don’t you agree? I just used the data to bring it to attention. Didn't you say we operate under 'radical transparency'?” (I was young and believed in this kind of slogan. Yes, I was a sitting duck and didn’t stand a chance.)

    Boss replied, "Radical transparency doesn't mean you get to say negative things."


    edit: the article is barely getting started at this point and I'm still reading with great interest. Please give this blog a click even if they say they don't care about it.

    Honestly, I am a peaceful guy. I will fight to protect my family, but otherwise, I trap and release bugs for Christ sakes.

    But every single person director level and above needs to be slapped in the face 4 times a day with fucking trout. To remind themselves that they are simply assholes who will crumble at the slightest real world issue. ALL c suite and most directors, are fucking overpaid, underworked and ass kissed by people better than them. Every fucking one

    Directors aren't a monolith though. Many, are a merely titles given to what we used to call team leads. But if they have real power ? They didn't earn it. None of them did not one.

    I have worked for some of the biggest digital companies on earth in my. 55++ years ,And I am not joking.

    Every single executive I met was an immoral liar.

  • I don't really care about this person's life story.

    Why read it then? And if you didn't read it, why did you comment?

  • At first, I thought I would settle for just the AI summary posted by a commenter on this thread. But then I felt intrigued and decided to skim through the blog. I didn't read it all for lack of time.

    And now I feel compelled to enter another comment to say this blog is so beautifully written - and likely conveys ideas that many of us can relate to. I'm very impressed.

    Thank you, OP!

    It's short, and worth the read!
    Battle through the short-form video content dopamine-hit addiction.

  • I remember 2007, when I got a gmail account and thought it was a much better alternative to whatever I had before.

    Google used to nurture an image of being the “good one” among megacorps; they championed open standards (except when they didn’t), supported open source projects (until they backstabbed them), and used language that corporate wasn’t supposed to use, like “don’t be evil” (until they, infamously and in a true dark comedy move, retracted that motto).

    my main job was to fix boring bugs on the Ruby on Rails internal user accounting system that someone else had developed. When I complained that this was a far cry from the academia-like, exciting research environment I had been promised, and asked to be assigned to a more challenging project, I was told the following rationale against it: “no”. Moreover the deadlines and expectations were such that even if I worked (unpaid) overtime every day, I was still was at risk of a performance review. Making actual use of the “20% time” felt like a pipe dream.

    And all that with wages well below even the local market in our crumbling Third World economy.

    Like most employees I blamed myself for not working hard enough to get good compensation—or to have time to exercise my right of 20% free time… Until I saw in the “Googlegeist” statistics that some 95% of employees never use their “20% time” at all, being trapped under the same pressures as I was.

    When she dared bring it up, this was the reaction - and I know this scenario all too well though I never worked at Google:

    The result of this was my boss having a fit over me “backstabbing” him. See, me complaining about the unfulfilled recruiter promises marked me as an Unhappy Googler. And Google, if you remember, was the Best Place To Work.

    I said, “But the issue is real and not my fault, don’t you agree? I just used the data to bring it to attention. Didn't you say we operate under 'radical transparency'?” (I was young and believed in this kind of slogan. Yes, I was a sitting duck and didn’t stand a chance.)

    Boss replied, "Radical transparency doesn't mean you get to say negative things."


    edit: the article is barely getting started at this point and I'm still reading with great interest. Please give this blog a click even if they say they don't care about it.

    Yes, great article! Well worth the read! It reminds me very much of my time at (different)big Tech as well...🤑

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    Hey @mirrorwitch@awful.systems, your blog post really seems to be making the rounds now!


    Edit: not sure why the downvote. It was originally posted by mirrorwitch, of the awful.systems instance, on the tech takes community there. Direct link: https://awful.systems/post/4558700

    It also got noticed by Hacker News, which is funny to me given that the original community it was posted to is incredibly anti-HN. Also that roughly half of the comments are people who were unable to follow how it was written (funny given HN's overwhelming elitist slant). Link: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44200773

    If mirrorwitch doesn't want the shoutout, just say so or send me a private message and I'll take this comment down.

  • Why read it then? And if you didn't read it, why did you comment?

    It was very boring.

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    Oh man, I'm a bit late to the party here. He really believes the far-right Trump propaganda, and doesn't understand what diversity programs do. It's not a war between white men an all the other groups of people... It's just that is has proven to be difficult to for example write a menstrual tracker with a 99.9% male developer base. It's just super difficult to them to judge how that's going to be used in real-world scenarios and what some specific challenges and nice features are. That's why you listen to minority opinions, to deliver a product that caters to all people. And these minority opinions are notoriously difficult to attract. That's why we do programs for that. They are task-forces to address things aside from what's mainstream and popular. It'll also benefit straight white men. Liteally everyone because it makes Linux into a product that does more than just whatever is popular as of today. Same thing applies to putting effort into screen readers and disabled people and whatever other minorities need. If he just wants what is majority, I'd recommend installing Windows to him. Because that's where we're headed with this. That's the popular choice, at least on the desktop. That's what you're supposed to use if you dislike niche. Also his hubris... Says Debian should be free from politics. And the very next sentence he talks his politics and wants to shove his Trump anti-DEI politics into Debian.... Yeah, sure dude.
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    Are these people retarded? Did they forget Edward Snowden?
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    Isn't the most common failure modes of electronics capacitors dying, followed closely by heat in chips? This research sounds cool and all.
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