For All That Is Good About Humankind, Ban Smartphones
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And then what? Go back to the stone age?
Kids waiting to get picked at school and their parents have emergency, how are they gonna inform the others to get picked up? Are they gonna just let that kid suck it up and wait for hours, just like the good old times?
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The problem is with planned obsolescence and capitalist drive to always make more. The device itself is not inherently bad, it's a glorified calculator.
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Ban smartphones makes about as much sense as ban drugs or ban guns. It does nothing to address root causes and will do little to change anything for the better. Societal issues take more than “make X illegal”.
Battling anything is built of two parts, making it immoral, and making it illegal. Making it illegal makes it easier to argue that it's immoral, because many people take cues for their morality from legality, but if you want to keep it illegal you have to maintain the cultural belief in its immorality. Each reinforces the other.
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There is no other economic system.
And "greed" isn't really the problem with capitalism. It's more about the violent deprivation of human needs in order to exploit people for the extreme privilege of a tiny minority. Etc.
There is no other economic system.
If lemmy.ml could read this, they'd be very upset.
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smartphones are one of rhe hundreds o things that would probably be just fine and good if it weren't for capitalism
classic lemmy
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Hey David, can you guess how many people are reading your article from a smartphone? Convenient, isn't it.
Want to complain about smartphones? Write a book... or something that can be published on fucking paper.
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Me who has a disability which prevents me from speaking and hearing people and renders me bedridden.
“Okay, guess I’ll die then”
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No. Smartphones convicted the murderer of George Floyd. Smartphones have shown to the world the police brutality that happens at peaceful protests. Technology isn't inherently evil, it's how its used.
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I agree, except that we are legally not allowed to control the software on our phones in lots of cases. Notifications, ads, upgrades, etc. are all controlled by the manufacturer and it's illegal to override their software on the device you own.
Add to that that specific pieces of software are becoming increasingly necessary to function in society, and you start to see that it's not really a matter of individual choice, anymore than people shopping at walmart can be blamed for buying processed, sugary foods when that's 90% of what walmart stocks (And all they promote), and walmart is the only affordable option in their community.
Illegal? What jurisdiction? There are tons of Lineage OS users and I haven't heard of anyone getting arrested for using them.
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smartphones are one of rhe hundreds o things that would probably be just fine and good if it weren't for capitalism
Idk, Smartphones under Feudalism can be just as bad, if not worse.
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Ban life.
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How about no. I've been wanting a pocketable "do everything" device since I got a Tiger Electronics PokeDex as a kid. Don't take this away from me.
How about better regulations on the obscene amount of data collection going on behind our backs? I can't count how many times I've come across even just websites that have a giant "accept all cookies" button, but in order to reject any, you have to dig through layers and layers of "settings". The most I've seen was 80+. And that's just websites.
I'm about to wipe my phone and go all-in on Calyx OS.
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Smartphones are fine, it's just a small computer that can make calls and is connected to the internet. You're using it wrong.
If people can't control themselves or their kids, it's not my problem.
The rise of fascists isn't your problem? Believe it or not, they'd never be this strong if it weren't for brainwashing the masses via smartphones.
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If you ban smartphones you better make a better replacement portable pc in the palm of my hand then.
Pocket PCs were a thing. I loved them.
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The rise of fascists isn't your problem? Believe it or not, they'd never be this strong if it weren't for brainwashing the masses via smartphones.
We had the same propaganda with books, radio, and TV. Should we ban those things too?
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Ban smartphones makes about as much sense as ban drugs or ban guns. It does nothing to address root causes and will do little to change anything for the better. Societal issues take more than “make X illegal”.
If USA banned guns, they might have a few less shootings.
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Is Jacobin just garbage or am I just seeing only garbage articles?
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Ehhhh no.
I can get behind "ban spying on me."
I can even get behind "ban social media, especially the kind that makes you sell yourself, though pseudononymous link aggregators are less the issue."
But "no more torrenting at work, no more reading digitally while pooping, no more encrypted chats, now have to carry a book, a camera, an mp3 player, my GBC, and a dumb phone, just to make up for the phone?"
No.
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Perhaps the actual answer is for people to learn self control.
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We had the same propaganda with books, radio, and TV. Should we ban those things too?
I'm just saying, that it is a problem and unless you're fascist yourself, it is also your problem. Banning phones is ridiculous and will never go through anyway.
By the way, the internet is a billion times more efficient in spreading propaganda than anything we've ever seen before. Something needs to be done. Banning phones is not the solution though.
