Well, Germany is still actively supporting a genocide, and their car industry is probably supplying a not-insignificant amount of funds for that.

So does a lot of countries, and I am not sure if a car company has anything to do with decisions of politicians.

The data from EU companies is anonymised and private. The data from Chinese companies is always available to their government.

Just trust me bro, the EU respects you but the Chinese are out to get you. The same EU that still has a special trade agreement with the genocidal Zionists, and is their biggest trading partner. The same continent that colonized and enslaved much of the rest of the world for centuries.Those are the good guys that you should implicitly trust, no proof needed you paranoid dummy. The red Chinese, they're the scary ones. Fear them.

Haha, tell that VW who stored positional data with full precision against their own rules (the CCC Chaos computer Club did a good presentation about this).

That article does not contain any actual evidence of any wrongdoing by Facebook. The reason I don't think that they are listening is that would be an utterly insane amount of data and 99% of it would be worthless.

The clinch would be someone pointing to some actual data, which is why I keep asking for the packets, and yet years later no one has ever produced them. No cybersecurity expert has ever been able to show me a packet, it's the simplest thing in the world and, they can't find them. If you're into a conspiracy theories explain how that works. They are allegedly listening to you except there was no evidence of any data is going to the Facebook servers. So how are they getting it?

Facebook have a lot of data and people really aren't as random as they think they are I'm sure they can algorithmically get this data without having to resort to to listening on the microphone.

I think part of it is that they can actually do anything long-term. Even the most altruistic president in for example the US will get four, at most eight years to do what they're planning. That's not enough time to do anything meaningful, all the while they're dealing with flak from the consequences of the last presidency, and their successor will at best take credit for their achievements, at worst destroy them before they succeed. And that's assuming the citizens didn't elect a self-serving megalomaniac.

Winnie the pooh, I'm pretty sure, actually cares about his country. He's by no means benevolent, but he has the power, resources, and time to build proper infrastructure and reshape the country as he sees fit.

Socially they're way behind from what I, as an outsider, can tell. Women's rights at least seem somewhat acceptable with definite room for improvement, but queer rights are even worse. Oh and there's a literal genocide of Uyghurs so that's pretty fucking bad.

But the benefits of China's dictatorship lie in the fact that they can actually think in the long-term and not just until the next election (the politician's equivalent of the next financial quarter) so they can wield their powers and resources to achieve these goals. The glorious leader must be praised for centuries to come, that can't happen if the earth becomes uninhabitable due to climate change or the country crumbles in on itself due to failing education and a failing economy.

Now if only that applied to citizen's rights...

Buying household groceries or anything of size sounds annoying or impossible on bike.

Not sure why buying groceries on a bike would be annoying or impossible. I do all my grocery shopping by bike, every single day, sometimes twice a day. Just bring a backpack.

As for ‘anything of size’, what would you need to transport? I still have a car, but I use it so little that I only need to buy gas maybe once or twice a year.

Here you go:

• https://www.byd.com/en-th/data-privacy
• https://www.koreaherald.com/article/10416925
• https://region.com.au/worst-offenders-respond-to-claims-their-cars-are-spying-on-you/818187/

Do you really think that CCP politely declines this free data? It's so easy to hide spyware under "anonymous performance telimetry" - didn't we learn anything from Cabridge Analytica and a billion of other cases? God lord, you people deserve to be spied on.

I'm happy you have this privilidge but reality is majority of the world doesn't. E-bikes are still not accessible to most and that'll continue to be the way because the tech is fundamentally flawed without fundamental architecture redesign which will take decades at least.

Or still actively occupy Tibet, how conveniently everyone forgot that but yay a slightly cheaper car!

Why would someone who doesn't live in China give a shit about Chinese spyware, especially when the alternative is any of the big US/EU manufacturers who happily hand your information to your own government?

China can't do shit to yall. I'd include myself in there, but I quite enjoyed my time in China and intend to return, so Chinese spyware could actually be a threat to me.

Where is that?

What, do you want to bring back the theocratic, slave-owning Lamas? I haven't been to Tibet, but I really doubt the average person wants what you seem to want for them.

It is not a mystery how propaganda gets started.

Steel is 1/3 the price as US. Alumnium 1/2. Markets with Futures trading. There's over 300 car companies in China. They are not all directly subsidized. There is state involved ownership (from factory building) in Steel, but they make money at market prices.

EVs are better cars, and most people are happy with them to get another EV in future. You do need private charging solutions to make it cheaper/convenient, and home solar makes it even better economics. Public charging is something you should plan to use a handful of times per year.

Theres a lot of diverse opinions with chinese people, especially travelers.

The tech is flawed? Bicycles are the most efficient mode of transportation bar none. E-Bikes just have a very efficient motor slapped onto them. It's not the tech. I also don't believe it's the climate because I know for a fact that more and more people are commuting by bike in the Philippines. If they can do it in 37 °C heat at 99% humidity and maximum exhaust fumes, then so can you.

That said, infrastructure is the biggest flaw. And that's something that can be changed within a couple of years, as long as people are willing to do so. The Netherlands were a car-brain shit hole in the 70s, and they made a 180 and live in fucking paradise.

Of course there are many things that absolutely require a car, but groceries isn't one of those, unless you live in the soulless suburban sprawl that you see so often in the USA.

finally some good news.

enemy of my enemy shit, I suppose.

I’m genuinely surprised people be ok with BYD on Lemmy

You are actually genuinely surprised... people on lemmy like something from china? I guess you know not a lot about lemmy lol.

Here's a hint: A lot of people on lemmy love china, especially the people who created it, and even moreso the people who populated it in its first days. You should look into lemmy a bit more if that's genuinely surprising to you.