SpaceX says states should dump fiber plans, give all grant money to Starlink
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We are talking about Starlink here, correct? Owned by Elon?
That said, all satellite networks are subject to dying if their ground-stations are taken offline, so if "all the fiber for a country goes down", so does Starlink.
We are talking about Starlink here, correct? Owned by Elon
No, we are talking about how hard of a target a satellite based network is vs a terrestrial fiber network. Starlink is being used purely as an example here, but is by no means a complete representation of all aspects of the technology.
That said, all satellite networks are subject to dying if their ground-stations are taken offline...
Yes, but they can route traffic between satellites and back down to working ground stations. Theoretically, one working ground station could keep the satellite network connected to the entire Internet. Hence why Starlink still works over Ukraine, and why it is such a big deal when Elon shuts it off.
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Ever try a voice call with 30ms of latency?
Lol what? You're not gonna notice a 30ms delay in a voice call...
@ubergeek@lemmy.today downvote with no reply even though you were painfully wrong. Sad.
And I'll downvote ya again, if I could
FWIW, I don't owe you a reply
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And I'll downvote ya again, if I could
FWIW, I don't owe you a reply
Of course you don't, just pointing out how pathetic you are
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They were not more stable. Any occlusion, including thick clouds, would degrade the signal to being unusable
You have the same issue with Starlink...
Yeah, I use voice chat every day, it’s not noticeable.
The people on the call do...
The people on the call do...
LMAO you're really doubling down?
No, they absolutely will not notice a 30ms delay. Why would you even say something so absurd?
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It's something that's only possible because of the scale a grid works on. It also helps to have generation like hydro, which can ramp up and down very fast.
I believe Florida's recent build-out of utility scale natural gas plants is driven, in part, by their ability to ramp up and down virtually instantly.
However, the linked story is about a residential neighborhood where lots of homeowners installed individual natural gas powered generators for their homes. Then, when the public grid failed in a hurricane, they all switched on their "whole home, natural gas powered" generators at once for the first time and the natural gas supply to the neighborhood was nowhere near up to the task of delivering all that fuel at that rate.
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Fuck off and give me the fiber that was promised and paid for decades ago.
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Bigot rhetoric
Lmao maybe from the point of view of a traitor who deserves prison time.
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How about no
How about we take down every starlink satellite so NASA can operate unabated, and our telescopes aren't interfered with.
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SpaceX can fuck right off with that plan.
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Lmao maybe from the point of view of a traitor who deserves prison time.
Sexist bigots don't have valid ideologies.
You're almost indistinguishable from a male incel.
Seek therapy.
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We already have physical lines.
Businesses and governments aren't going to invest in digging and laying down more cables to give people in rural America access to fiber. They're already reluctant to do it for major cities.
They actually have invested multiple times. Problem is the companies they give the money to just pocket it and don't update their infrastructure. Give this money to the local community or coop owned fiber operators. Stop giving money to these huge corps that don't need it and fund the small coop and community run fiber operators.
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Some of us were already banned for such comments, but now we are here being bloodthirsty dickheads. I want to put Musks head in a vice and tighten it till the two plates are dry.
That’s just ridiculous. The suffering he has inflicted on the rest of the world will be felt for a very long time. Crushing his head would get him out of those consequences.
Why not something more drawn out?
I say we fit him with an explosive collar and any time his asset valuation exceeds, let’s say 350% of the federal poverty guideline, its starts screaming an alarm. He would then have 2 hours to reduce his asset valuation or it explodes.
I would say he should to live as a poor person in the US forever but honestly, the idea of him balancing a bank account like the rest of us is more entertaining.
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Yep very true.
To me the main benefit of the direct fiber connection is the symmetry. With cable here I’m “supposed” to get “up to” 1000mbs down but my upload speed is at best 40. Moving large files back and forth to work is very painful.
With cable here I’m “supposed” to get “up to” 1000mbs down but my upload speed is at best 40.
Man, you get 40 up? I'm stuck on 30 up. And the funny thing is that just on the other side of the creek on the other side of my street is where they stopped the fibre rollout.
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We already have physical lines.
Businesses and governments aren't going to invest in digging and laying down more cables to give people in rural America access to fiber. They're already reluctant to do it for major cities.
Fibre deployment is getting cheaper and easier. Both in terms of cost of materials and in the equipment and labour skills.
It's also much more secure from interference and disruption.
For populated areas, there's zero justification to rollout wireless over fibre lines. And most major cities already have fibre in most, or many, areas. And the thing with fibre is that the physical lines can be used to deploy faster speeds with upgraded endpoints.
Tech bros would have you think physical connections aren't a good choice anymore, because laying down fibre isn't sexy enough for that VC money.
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If Intel has to give the US government 5%, Starlink should have to give back 25%.
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Fibre deployment is getting cheaper and easier. Both in terms of cost of materials and in the equipment and labour skills.
It's also much more secure from interference and disruption.
For populated areas, there's zero justification to rollout wireless over fibre lines. And most major cities already have fibre in most, or many, areas. And the thing with fibre is that the physical lines can be used to deploy faster speeds with upgraded endpoints.
Tech bros would have you think physical connections aren't a good choice anymore, because laying down fibre isn't sexy enough for that VC money.
Ok.
What about everyone else?
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Ok.
What about everyone else?
It's still worthwhile.
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It's still worthwhile.
Who's going to pay for it?
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Who's going to pay for it?
Where? In the US? It's already been paid for multiple times over, through government grants and subsidies.
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Where? In the US? It's already been paid for multiple times over, through government grants and subsidies.
Can you tell me more about this? Is it true that government grants and subsidies were given out to specifically expand fiber to rural America?
