Spotify fans threaten to return to piracy as music streamer introduces new face-scanning age checks in the UK
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Tidal is pretty good these days. Qobuz too
And Bandcamp
We switched to Deezer about a month ago and are liking it. Flow seems to find music I like way better than Spotify's DJ or "for you" playlists.
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Where is Spotify error prone? I dont use it that much, but I havent encountered a bug once.
I use it a lot, and have been for 10 years or so. I have never had any sort of error. It has simply always worked exactly like it's supposed to.
I don't know anything about it being intrusive or insecure, and definately need a source on that, but it's possible those criticisms are valid, but again, need a damn source. As is, the person you commented on has lost all cridibilty, so I'm inclined to err on the side of caution, and assume they don't know what they're talking about.
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Considering how much Spotify pays artists per listens, piracy is barely any different in that regard.
This is the most upsetting part. If you're a solo artist without a label, you need what's essentially a million listens to break minimum wage. For bands, and anyone with a label, even that's practically out of question. This shit is why everyone sells 75$ t-shirts at shows
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You might want to check music.youtube.com, I still have my (GMusic) uploaded collection available there, I cannot upload new, but what was there still is. Just mentioning it in case you are still looking for your music.
That said, yes, downloading (pirating or not) and setting a home music server seems to be the best option.
It's not necessarily your music though, it's the closest that they found in their library sometimes. I have tons of tracks that I uploaded the explicit copy of to gmusic but my library downloads only had the censored/radio version.
Found that out the hard way after a drive crash a few years back. Have spent a bit of time reacquiring the stuff I cared about.
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I'd love something nicely automated
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I use it a lot, and have been for 10 years or so. I have never had any sort of error. It has simply always worked exactly like it's supposed to.
I don't know anything about it being intrusive or insecure, and definately need a source on that, but it's possible those criticisms are valid, but again, need a damn source. As is, the person you commented on has lost all cridibilty, so I'm inclined to err on the side of caution, and assume they don't know what they're talking about.
When people get mad they get hyperbolic sometimes. Might be the case here. Same with not having it error on me as well. That said, fuck their CEO, they lost a sub from me after I heard about the drone investment.
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Considering how much Spotify pays artists per listens, piracy is barely any different in that regard.
Wrong
Piracy is 100x more ethical
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Personally I could never get into the whole Spotify and Pandora thing. I want to listen to what I want to listen to and when I want to listen to it, without ridiculous restrictions and rules. YouTube has honestly been the far better choice for music for me.
It's mostly the discovery aspect, it's easy to find new and emerging artists through these services, and they make playing that music very convenient. YouTube does have some of it with YouTube music but I've not found the algorithm to be as good as Spotify or Tidal
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what are "spotify fans"? Spotify paid 150k $ for Trump's inauguration party, f them. They do not deserve my money
I left Spotify for many reasons including this. They've only proven that they do not care about artists at all. I remember before I left, many of the tracks that came up "based on my playlist" were just random AI generated crap.
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Do it.
It's easy. Just use a Youtube-to-MP3 converter.
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I feel like I'm standing between two really stupid positions here.
On the one hand, just let parents teach their kids is basically a state's rights argument. A lot of parents won't teach their kids, so... do we care? Does this matter? We should probably mount a stronger effort then.
On the other hand, we don't need the government to get involved to stop 9 year olds from seeing titties—we just don't! Websites the world over have implemented 2-factor-authentication more or less by themselves (
and probably because they want to spy on you). And, no one says the word r----- anymore because if you ever do, a bunch of anti-bullying PSAs will be really annoying about it in your replies.Not every social problem needs to be solved by swinging around Thor's hammer. We do have other means.
is basically a state’s rights argument
No, it's a privacy and individual rights argument. I don't want local governments enforcing it any more than I want national arguments enforcing it.
Kids seeing stuff they shouldn't isn't itself a problem, but it can lead to problems. For example, kids learning to make bombs itself isn't an issue, kids making bombs to hurt others is the issue. Hold parents legally accountable for the latter, not the former.
The furthest I'd be willing to go on this is requiring a payment method (which itself requires sufficient age) to be entered before accessing anything "adult oriented," and even then I'm not completely sold. But this way the burden of verifying age is restricted to things consumers already need to trust, and parents would need to give or allow their kid access to a payment method.
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It is 1970-01-01 like me, no?
April 20th, 1969? Anyone?
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As much as I'd like to do that, I have listened to over 7000 artists on Spotify.
I simply don't have the time (or money) to look those up individually.
So I can either choose to have worse experience, or stick with Spotify for now.There is a cost to convenience ratio. Each individual has to decide based on their own ethics and preferences whether they're willing to sacrifice their own personal experience for the right of ownership. I personally chose to cancel my Spotify subscription some time ago and start buying digital downloads and CDs again.
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Bandcamp, Soulseek, Navidrome, ListenBrainz.
Has been a pretty solid Spotify-replacement stack.
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We live in a rural part of Canada that has been left behind by modern times. Mostly by the choice of the residents. I grew up during satanic panic. It was crazy here. My wife and I let our kids listen to anything they want. They always have. They're 10 and 12.
Their friends often comment about swear words and "sex, drugs and rock and roll" themes of the music they listen too. As an old man I get to regale them with stories of how crazy the Christians were over heavy metal and punk rock when I was a kid, including their grandma.
Now I yell "you're gonna go to hell!" As a joke to them every time their friends bring it up and I am around.
“you’re gonna go to hell!”
if where all the "christians" go is heaven, then i'd rather go to hell
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It is 1970-01-01 like me, no?
it's 2000-01-01 for me
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It's mostly the discovery aspect, it's easy to find new and emerging artists through these services, and they make playing that music very convenient. YouTube does have some of it with YouTube music but I've not found the algorithm to be as good as Spotify or Tidal
I used to use and praise Spotify and their algorithm, but I was starting to find that it would insist on playing the same 20 or 50 songs regardless of the playlist I was trying to generate music suggestions from. I read a rumor somewhere that it was a way to decrease the load on their servers and rely more on the cached songs already on the device, and got sick of that enough to switch to Pandora after over 10 years of Spotify
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It's not necessarily your music though, it's the closest that they found in their library sometimes. I have tons of tracks that I uploaded the explicit copy of to gmusic but my library downloads only had the censored/radio version.
Found that out the hard way after a drive crash a few years back. Have spent a bit of time reacquiring the stuff I cared about.
That's why I have it uploaded to a cloud service but I have the entire collection backed up on my phone, 3 computers and a few miscellaneous SD cards.
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The streaming services are run by shithead C-suites who think last quarter is the way it's always been. They forget the only reason most of us use their services is someone more visionary than them made it more convenient than piracy half a generation ago. Let's remind them there's an alternative.
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Do it.
It's easy. Just use a Youtube-to-MP3 converter.
This is cool if you’re okay with low fidelity music.
After years of lossless and headphones to distinguish, this sounds like fingernails on a chalk board.
It’s akin to using a tape deck to aux adapter in an old car or recording a tape off of an old boombox radio lol. I’d rather listen to nothing.
