The EU still wants to scan all your chats – and the rules could come into force by October 2025
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Thank you for helping us stop chat control! We from the Swedish Pirate Party are strongly against this!
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Ugh, this shit again...
Are there any initiatives out there to call a stop to this? Or even better, initiatives to introduce legislation that forbids setting up this kind of surveillance infrastructure altogether?
Well we in the Swedish Pirate Party are strongly against this! We have been fighting since the beginning against Chat Control! Feel free to DM me and I can even try to find a Pirateparty near you or atleast a party who are aligned similarly!
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Absolutely unacceptable and ridiculous.
We couldn't have said it better!
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Thank god my OS doesn't care about EU regulation
And what do you think that means the moment your OS connects to, oh I don't know, the rest of the fucking planet?
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I'm starting to edit idcaboutprivacy more and more often (and that's not a good thing)
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It's not the EU yet. It's a group of activists from Denmark. There wasn't even preliminary voting on it yet.
Doesn't mean we need to be complacent of course, but so far nothing happened.What activists? I need their names, for personal research reasons.
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I'm starting to edit idcaboutprivacy more and more often (and that's not a good thing)
Dude, I decided to make a personal note with lots of similar links regarding privacy, so that I can provide the source when I discuss these matters with people. But yours in much more thorough - and public. Thanks for saving me a ton of work!
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I'm starting to edit idcaboutprivacy more and more often (and that's not a good thing)
I like the comapirson i heared at
Anne Roths(https://systemli.social/@anneroth) talk(German):You would never say: I don't need free speech because I have nothing to say. Everyone profits from data privacy and free speech and some people are depending on their life on it.
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What activists? I need their names, for personal research reasons.
I don't know who reintroduced it, but here the original one https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=COM%3A2022%3A209%3AFIN&qid=1652451192472
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If you're a citizen of an EU country, you should contact your politicians to tell them not to, maybe they won't.
It only has to pass once, and they keep trying.
Contacting politicians directly is good, but joining orgs like the Electronic Frontier Foundation or Privacy International multiplies your impact since they have lawyers and can actualy challenge these laws in court.
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Your OS doesn't, put the messaging apps that your friends/family/coworkers use do.
And no, you can't convince them to switch messager, I tried.
I, at least, managed to get most of my family to switch. I told them it was the only way they'd get pictures and updates of my son. The one small victory I'm satisfied with.
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time to make my own shitty ass software to deal with this stuff
should check existing options first:
- Briar
- Simplex
- Tox
- Matrix and elements as frontend
- xmpp
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It's not the EU yet. It's a group of activists from Denmark. There wasn't even preliminary voting on it yet.
Doesn't mean we need to be complacent of course, but so far nothing happened.How the fuck can you be pro censorship/pro big brother? What kind of idiot do you have to be? Do they just get bags of money to spout out this bullshit?
Does having a lot of money exempt you from this shit? I don't get it. I can understand detestable people being pro things that make the poor poor and the rich rich. But this affect everyone both poor and rich. The only one benefiting from this are fascist dictators.
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How the fuck can you be pro censorship/pro big brother? What kind of idiot do you have to be? Do they just get bags of money to spout out this bullshit?
Does having a lot of money exempt you from this shit? I don't get it. I can understand detestable people being pro things that make the poor poor and the rich rich. But this affect everyone both poor and rich. The only one benefiting from this are fascist dictators.
It's not "Danish activists" but rather the government. As a Dane I know how horny these people are to create a fullblown police/nanny state. SVM (the name for the government) is terrible for all of us. Can't wait to see their voter share drastically diminish at the next election, but clearly they can do a lot of harm first..
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Your OS doesn't, put the messaging apps that your friends/family/coworkers use do.
And no, you can't convince them to switch messager, I tried.
You don't have to say everything on those apps, tho, just do basic stuff and for longer convos request an encrypted chat app.
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Is the EU not subject to GDPR?
Rules are for the people, not governments
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Is the EU not subject to GDPR?
The EU decides what's GDPR. And it seems recently it decided to not be buggered by those old ideas that are privacy, freedom, etc.
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It's not the EU yet. It's a group of activists from Denmark. There wasn't even preliminary voting on it yet.
Doesn't mean we need to be complacent of course, but so far nothing happened.but so far nothing happened
Things happens frighteningly fast these days. It's not a matter of being complacent; it's a matter of budding things in the nip. Which won't work. Then tirelessly fight back against it.
Unless you've been sleeping under a rock these last few… weeks. Not even months. Some legislation can go from 0 to 100 extremely quickly if left unchecked.
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The fuck is happening over there? Was there lead in the water?
It's not lead, it's Russians
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Thank god my OS doesn't care about EU regulation
As long as owning a device that allow full E2E encryption without spyware isn't illegal.
It bears repeating a lot of time : the technology to circumvent these things exist, and will continue to exist. However, there's nothing preventing obtuse lawmakers from making it illegal to own. And then, it's just a matter of catching someone and finding some rooted android phone in his pocket.
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