OpenAI’s ChatGPT Agent casually clicks through “I am not a robot” verification test
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Ooh, sorry, you missed the single pixel on the corner of the adjacent tile, FAIL
You didn't miss it the second time, ALSO FAIL
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i never know what's expected on those type of captcha. if the handle bars of a bike go into an adjacent box and are 99% covered by a hand does that count? what do you do when you have a blurry image full of jpg artifacts and are asked to identify if it contains a fire hydrant. I'm pretty sure it usually classifies me as a bot for being too exact since I'm asked follow ups for a few minutes until i give up and just close the tab out of annoyance.
That's kind of the point, though. You're teaching their AI how to make those decisions.
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Wait. Your *arr apps are public?
Yeah, if they want it accessible over the internet, hide it behind a Wireguard tunnel.
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Could you please enlighten me on one small point:
When it asks you to click all the squares with a motorcycle, etc., does it expect you to include the squares with just a tiny part of the motorcycle or rider, or does it just want you to select the main squares?
I'm sorry for the late reply. I have to admit, I'm not entirely sure in this instance. Google's CAPTCHA isn't something I've kept up on and I too have had issues with it. I've personally done only major squares and squares with a tiny parts too. Both have worked. I'm sorry I can't find you a more complete answer.
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Wait. Your *arr apps are public?
*ourr apps, apparently
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Cloudflare is one of many contributing factors to how annoying the internet is now.
I get it. I really do. Having seen both the sheer volume of bot traffic and the annoyance of CAPTCHA, it's hard for me to be on one side here. I wish the general public could see the volume of bot traffic we're all contending with but I also get the the internet just gets shitier and shitier.
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That's kind of the point, though. You're teaching their AI how to make those decisions.
Am I? Or does it think I'm a bot?
I guess it's on brand for Google to try and squeeze more value out of a product by making it worse for users. Just like Prabhakar Raghavan ruined Google search.
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Wait. Your *arr apps are public?
You have to have a Cloudflare captcha solver for some of the *arr stack to work with certain indexers or something, idk. When my old *arr stack died and had to be rebuilt I ran into that problem, and after a short investigation, I promptly said fuck it and learned usenet. So happy that I did.
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"This step is necessary to prove I'm not a bot," wrote the bot as it passed an anti-AI screening step.
Wow, agents built to monitor and reflect human behaviour, accurately model and reproduce human behaviour.
This is what is what shits me off when people complain "Oh this AI isn't real AI" or "This isn't consciousness" The limiting factor is is the training data. Humans have just had a few more million years of training data passed on through genetics. It's replication and fakery all the way down. If this is you, if you fucking need the reassurance that you are better at being fucking conscious compare to a machine fuck the fuck right off and go do something amazing with it then. Compose something. Create something. Feel the wind in your hair and the sand at your feet. Fuck off, we're all dirt.
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Lemme guess... traffic lights, too many motorcycles, and buses? There was something "wrong" with your cookies cache or IP. Google just straight fucks with you if it sees network traffic it doesn't like.
"Hold on, you gotta wait for another picture of a bus to load. Nevermind that it now inexplicably takes 10 seconds to load the fucking picture"
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Wow, agents built to monitor and reflect human behaviour, accurately model and reproduce human behaviour.
This is what is what shits me off when people complain "Oh this AI isn't real AI" or "This isn't consciousness" The limiting factor is is the training data. Humans have just had a few more million years of training data passed on through genetics. It's replication and fakery all the way down. If this is you, if you fucking need the reassurance that you are better at being fucking conscious compare to a machine fuck the fuck right off and go do something amazing with it then. Compose something. Create something. Feel the wind in your hair and the sand at your feet. Fuck off, we're all dirt.
.... That's a lot of expletives for anyone who might have a differing opinion about the nature of consciousness or reality.
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"Hold on, you gotta wait for another picture of a bus to load. Nevermind that it now inexplicably takes 10 seconds to load the fucking picture"
I think there's a tampermonkey script that skips the "loading" time. It's jarring but it works.
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Wow, agents built to monitor and reflect human behaviour, accurately model and reproduce human behaviour.
This is what is what shits me off when people complain "Oh this AI isn't real AI" or "This isn't consciousness" The limiting factor is is the training data. Humans have just had a few more million years of training data passed on through genetics. It's replication and fakery all the way down. If this is you, if you fucking need the reassurance that you are better at being fucking conscious compare to a machine fuck the fuck right off and go do something amazing with it then. Compose something. Create something. Feel the wind in your hair and the sand at your feet. Fuck off, we're all dirt.
What does being able to fill a captcha have to do with consciousness? "Wow the ai being good at this pattern matching task surely is proof of it being humanlike because humans are also good at pattern matching!" Is such a stretch, dude.
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Lemme guess... traffic lights, too many motorcycles, and buses? There was something "wrong" with your cookies cache or IP. Google just straight fucks with you if it sees network traffic it doesn't like.
Something I find really funny is that my residential IP gets flagged 80x more often than any VPN's IPs I've tried.
Although as soon as I see "Please try again" on a captcha, I leave the site. I got stuck on one for like 10 minutes before I finally gave up
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.... That's a lot of expletives for anyone who might have a differing opinion about the nature of consciousness or reality.
Noted.
I calmed down and started searching for some recommendations to counter this view.
Although at the moment I still think The Chinese Room argument doesn't prove what Searle thinks it does.
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"This step is necessary to prove I'm not a bot," wrote the bot as it passed an anti-AI screening step.
There was a really interesting video (can't remember the title) that went into Google's captcha specifically, and found that it really isn't designed to detect bots. It's designed to detect a unique digital fingerprint that can be used by advertisers.
So, you can use a really simple mouse script to click the checkbox automatically with no issue, but as soon as you use a VPN you get served with the photo games. It doesn't care if you're a robot, it cares if you're a valuable ad target.
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You have to have a Cloudflare captcha solver for some of the *arr stack to work with certain indexers or something, idk. When my old *arr stack died and had to be rebuilt I ran into that problem, and after a short investigation, I promptly said fuck it and learned usenet. So happy that I did.
I think the confusion comes from people misunderstanding that cloud flare isn’t being set up in front of the arr stack, Instead, what people are talking about is flaresolverr, an application that helps services like jackett bypass cloudflares verification.
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There was a really interesting video (can't remember the title) that went into Google's captcha specifically, and found that it really isn't designed to detect bots. It's designed to detect a unique digital fingerprint that can be used by advertisers.
So, you can use a really simple mouse script to click the checkbox automatically with no issue, but as soon as you use a VPN you get served with the photo games. It doesn't care if you're a robot, it cares if you're a valuable ad target.
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i never know what's expected on those type of captcha. if the handle bars of a bike go into an adjacent box and are 99% covered by a hand does that count? what do you do when you have a blurry image full of jpg artifacts and are asked to identify if it contains a fire hydrant. I'm pretty sure it usually classifies me as a bot for being too exact since I'm asked follow ups for a few minutes until i give up and just close the tab out of annoyance.
My son was looking over my shoulder, or vice-versa, while I bitched about that. It was bikes or motorcycles and I'd always click if I thought there was any amount of it in a picture. He told me not to be so precise, as in, if there's a tiny bit of handlebar, didn't count it. That seems to work better... unless it doesn't like my VPN or whatever, in which case it's never ending
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Am I? Or does it think I'm a bot?
I guess it's on brand for Google to try and squeeze more value out of a product by making it worse for users. Just like Prabhakar Raghavan ruined Google search.
They almost always know whether or not you're a bot before you get to any of those pictures. Making you deal with the pictures is how they "pay" for the capcha.
You'll notice most of the images are related to traffic. That's training data for their self driving cars.
