Wow just two days ago I see a post about how Lemmy is dominated by men and how that could become a problem, and today I see a comment section where all the incels come out of the woodwork.

"waaa somebody wants to solve a problem that has never affected me I'm the victim"

"omg what if people talk behind my back they might find out I'm an asshole? literally 1984"

"wadabout if this app was racist?!? checkmate"

I'm not saying this app is good or bad (I can definitely see the problems) but if an article about cybersecurity gets posted and this is our first reaction, makes me lose hope in Lemmy.

Edit: Responses have made very good points and I think I was off, thanks guys. I still think some of the early comments I encountered were rather reactionary

That was ONE OKCupid survey from years ago, and it also showed that women were more likely than men to message people they didn't rate as attractive.

In reality, women and men rate male facial attractiveness about the same. https://datepsychology.com/can-women-identify-an-average-face/

These alleged high standards women hold are largely imaginary. It's only kind of like that on dating apps, and that's because they're 80% male, so women HAVE to be picky.

Yeah, this app sucks for a variety of reasons, but holy shit the misogyny in this thread.

I am going to say with even the downsides I think the idea is worth it.

My friend sucks to her creeps and maybe she could have saved herself from at least two abused cases.

Maybe like light system based around how often and how a users submits. This person submits a lot of negative responses red light.
This person submits rarely green light?

The problem is also how much data do we really want to keep? How little can we keep?

Meowmeowbeans social pressure where people will refuse to meet or associate with people who have not been vetted and verified by meowmeowbeans members. So people who want to meet meowmeowbeans users would have to join to get screened otherwise they can get lost.

Solves the issue of people who never signed up to the social media site having strangers uploading personal photos, videos, names, and stories to a profile page they never consented to. Which is reminiscent of doxing in its current state.

So meowmeowbeans certification among consenting members would be the better route to go and socially making those not in meowmeowbeans outcasts. At least there is choice now for people to not be part of the community driven database of people.

I'm certainly no web security expert, but shouldn't Tea's junior network/backend/security developers, let alone seniors, know how to secure said Firebase or S3 buckets with STARTTLS or SSL certificates? Shouldn't a company like this have some sort of compliance department?

Thanks for looking out for us. However, I, too, am a bit concerned. This is how Facebook started. The tech industry has zero ethics. I recommend women, AND men, have a trusted safety buddy when dating. When I met my spouse, I had two people who knew where I was, the person's name, photo, employer, and where we were meeting.Do some internet stalking. If I don't call you in an hour, come looking for me. If I call, I might ask for another hour, but you get the point.

I am not sure, but I read somewhere that the developer(s) used vibe coding to create the app so...

I agree. High standards and common ideas of "right" are generally present among people insecure and easily gaslighted.

Such as those that would use this app. Point?

How dare you!
The misogyny!

“waaa somebody wants to solve a problem that has never affected me I’m the victim”

Everyone has the problem that they'd want to discuss others behind their back. It's not accepted because it doesn't work to any good end.

“omg what if people talk behind my back they might find out I’m an asshole? literally 1984”

You won't find out anything from this. People sometimes lie, especially in such situations.

but if an article about cybersecurity gets posted and this is our first reaction, makes me lose hope in Lemmy.

Human adequacy is a big part of cybersecurity.

i wonder if there’s the potential for a different app with more encryption and a way to prevent doxxing and abuse.

Encryption, sure.
Preventing doxxing? I highly doubt it. But hey, it's women doing it so it's ok and anyone who criticizes that is an incel.

i mean...an app directly copying a black mirror episode (but almost exclusively targeting a specific demographic) does ring some very, VERY loud alarm bells...

like, this is literally the plot of nosedive.

it's a social credit system.

and none of the people even know they HAVE a score, so it's somehow even worse than the fictional scenario.

this will, absolutely, hurt innocents and it will do so by design.

"fuck them innocents!"...just because they happen to be men?

how is that anything other than misandrist?

how is that defensible?

how is doxxing, mass libel, and targeted harassment a solution to sexism and rape culture?

I'd be really interested in hearing anything about how this is supposed to help women, because i struggle to see how sowing massive, unearned distrust between men and women is going to make anyone any safer...

I'm really, REALLY glad that the GDPR would nuke this sort of nonsense from orbit...uploading pictures of strangers, for the explicit purpose of gossiping about them behind their backs, spreading awful rumors?

what. the. actual. fuck. is wrong with you people?

and i don't mean women, or men: i mean americans and their total disregard for privacy and digital safety. what the hell...

it’s up to the person being reported on to prove the accusations are false.

The person doesn't even know they're mentioned in the app.

You make a valid point, this platform absolutely shits on anyone without technical knowledge, just look at the hundred or so smug replies telling you what flavor of Linux they run if you mention a problem with Windows. So, no surprise everyone is focusing on that, and not the human aspect here.

Having said that, there is a power imbalance to this that I really don't like, the accuser gets to hide behind a veil of anonymity, and the accused has their name published, and is forced to defend themselves.

Which is even worse, because unless someone tells them, they're blissfully unaware.

With most forms of Libel, at least the victim will see it in a timely manner.

So, no surprise everyone is focusing on that, and not the human aspect here.

This is a technology community and the article is specifically about a security breach that exposed massive amounts of sensitive user data.

I'm sorry but I'll just say it out right: new feminists are the absolute worst

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for equality where possible. Where isn't equality possible? Well I'd like to conceive a child, but the plumbing isn't exactly useful for that. That sort of thing. Beyond that, were all the same, and IDGAF about your skin color, sexual preferences or whatever. I live by live and Let live, don't be an asshole, it's not that hard to be respectful

New feminists though are the ones coming up with ideas like this website. On the surface, anyone could say that it's not a bad thing to have a place for women to talk about how to protect themselves. In reality though, it's a place where men, innocent or not, get doxxed and made to be rapists.

There are some subs here on Lemmy as well that were very sad to see this shitshow of a website go, lamenting the fact that now they need a different place to dex people. Try not to tell them that doxxing is bad, it gets you banned.

Lots of men in this thread real upset about this app pointing out how the majority men are shit