Robot performs first realistic surgery without human help: System trained on videos of surgeries performs like an expert surgeon
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So are we fully abandoning reason based robots?
Is the future gonna just be things that guess but just keep getting better at guessing?
I’m disappointed in the future.
That’s all people are too, though.
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without human help
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responded to and learned from voice commands from the team
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They should have specified "without physical human help."
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I want that thing where a light "paints" over wounds and they heal.
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So are we fully abandoning reason based robots?
Is the future gonna just be things that guess but just keep getting better at guessing?
I’m disappointed in the future.
Reasoning is just informed guessing.
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Are you kidding!? It'll be rolled out to poor people first! (gotta iron out the last of the bugs somehow)
You really don't understand modern medical bullshit. The rich will be all over this, just like AI, Just like NFTs just like every bullshit thing that comes up they get roped into by a flashy salesman
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A robot trained on videos of surgeries performed a lengthy phase of a gallbladder removal without human help. The robot operated for the first time on a lifelike patient, and during the operation, responded to and learned from voice commands from the team—like a novice surgeon working with a mentor.
The robot performed unflappably across trials and with the expertise of a skilled human surgeon, even during unexpected scenarios typical in real life medical emergencies.
Okay but why? No thank you.
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Would it be able to handle a sudden power outage? A fire alarm going off?
As well as a human, and without fucking up because of stress.
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Reasoning is just informed guessing.
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Right I'm sure a bunch of arm chair docs on lemme are totally more knowledgeable and have more understanding of all this and their needed procedures than actual licensed doctors.
More than the doctors? No, absolutely not.
More than the bean counters who want to replace these doctors with unsupervised robots? I'm a lot more confident on that one.
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know what? let's just skip the middleman and have the CEO undergo the same operation. you know like the taser company that tasers their employees.
can't have trust in a product unless you use the product.
I understand what you are saying is intended as „if they trust their product they should use it themselves“ and I agree with that
I do think that undergoing an operation that a person doesnt need isnt ethical however
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You really don't understand modern medical bullshit. The rich will be all over this, just like AI, Just like NFTs just like every bullshit thing that comes up they get roped into by a flashy salesman
Oh yeah, I've been successfully propagandized into thinking rich people became rich through merit, I forgot how many of them are complete morons XD
Thanks for reminding me
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I understand what you are saying is intended as „if they trust their product they should use it themselves“ and I agree with that
I do think that undergoing an operation that a person doesnt need isnt ethical however
who said they won't need it
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without human help
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responded to and learned from voice commands from the team
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I have seen enough ER to know that operating theatre staff work as a team. So I consider this would be a good thing.
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And that's all for analyzing statements. You can't just do that to some words and discover objective truth out of nowhere, so I'm not sure what you think you're accomplishing here. What you're linking is more analogous to the code that underlies an AI(if/while loops and whatnot). Reasoning is closer to the scientific method of forming a hypothesis and whatnot than anything you linked.
You basically just pointed out that there's a math system for logic. Neat.
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A robot trained on videos of surgeries performed a lengthy phase of a gallbladder removal without human help. The robot operated for the first time on a lifelike patient, and during the operation, responded to and learned from voice commands from the team—like a novice surgeon working with a mentor.
The robot performed unflappably across trials and with the expertise of a skilled human surgeon, even during unexpected scenarios typical in real life medical emergencies.
so this helps with costs right? right? 🥺
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so this helps with costs right? right? 🥺
🤨It helps the capitalists' profit margins
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It helps the capitalists' profit margins
I know, I'm over here trying to light little fires LoL JK but yeah for sure never see reduced costs
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I know, I'm over here trying to light little fires LoL JK but yeah for sure never see reduced costs
Oh I get it, trust. I'm sure we're both equally mad about it lol
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A robot trained on videos of surgeries performed a lengthy phase of a gallbladder removal without human help. The robot operated for the first time on a lifelike patient, and during the operation, responded to and learned from voice commands from the team—like a novice surgeon working with a mentor.
The robot performed unflappably across trials and with the expertise of a skilled human surgeon, even during unexpected scenarios typical in real life medical emergencies.
"OMG it was supposed to take out my LEFT kidney! I'm gonna die!!!!!!"
"Oops, the surgeon in the training video took out a Right kidney. Uhh... sorry."
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At some point in a not very distant future, you will probably be better off with the robot/AI. As it will have wider knowledge of how to handle fringe cases than a human surgeon.
We are not there yet, but maybe in 10 years or maybe 20?The main issue with any computer is that they can't adapt to new situations. We can infer and work through new problems. The more variables the more "new" problems. The problem with biology is there isn't really any hard set rules, there are almost always exceptions. The amount of functional memory and computing power is ridiculous for a computer. Driving works mostly because there are straightforward rules.
