Iran pls hack Elon Musk's Twitter account and post "I'm a mean old Nazi who sucks ass at Path of Exile 2"

Oh man.

My comment was intended to imply that the term "hacking" defies definition because it has been grossly overused and misconstrued over many decades.

Sure you might be able to convey what it means to you but of course it means different things to everyone else, with each definition being equally appropriate.

Er go, any discussion is one of semantics.

When my parents kicked me out, the number of times o got to sleep inside because i could convince people i was the county password inspector was more than zero. It's hacking.

Wrench? No. But an old colleague informs me that the version done with a machete does count as hacking. I concur.

Those are both way more useful than exploiting a lazy coder's fuckup, renaming 'house of many backdoors' to 'that package everyone uses in everything' on github, or some fancy math shit.

Your laws are nonsense bullshit, they're just excuses for power and I'd appreciate you not defiling language fof the rest of us to justify them.

Those are both way more useful than exploiting a lazy coder’s fuckup

I never said social engineering, physical breaching, exerting force on people, and other ways of compromising systems weren't useful. They just aren't hacking to me, otherwise the term is too broad to be very useful.

You're free to come up with your own definition, I was asked to define it and that's my best shot for now.

Those are both way more useful than exploiting a lazy coder’s fuckup

I never said social engineering, physical breaching, exerting force on people, and other ways of compromising systems weren't useful. They just aren't hacking to me, otherwise the term is too broad to be very useful.

You're free to come up with your own definition, I was asked to define it and that's my best shot for now.

I think a better definition would be "achieve something in an unintended or uncommon way". Fits the bill on what generally passes in the tech community as a "hack" while also covering some normal life stuff.

Getting a cheaper flight booked by using a IP address assigned to a different geographical location? Sure I'd call that a life hack. Getting a cheaper flight by booking a late night, early morning flight? No, those are deliberately cheaper

Also re: your other comment about not making a reply at all, sometimes for people like us it's just better to not get into internet fights over semantics (no matter how much fun they can be)

DDoS is not hacking

You know my first instinct wast to reply with: "No."

Maybe I should have stuck with that. I had a feeling this would lead nowhere.

You say this like the hour all major SAAS went down 2 weeks ago was nothing. MILLIONS lost in business hours is not nothing.

It's been tried. A huge percentage of the internet runs on Amazon web services... And a massive ddos attack on that barely bumped it beyond the level of holiday shopping.

To get anywhere on "taking down the internet" they'd probably have to physically take out many sites across the globe.

DDoS is not hacking

The word "hack" is pre-internet. A "hack" journalist or a "hack job" is basically something unprofessional. It is movies that turned "hackers" into someone that gained access to the "mainframe". In the realm of computer systems, I would argue that a "hack" is doing anything the system was not intended/designed to do. A successful DoS or DDoS needs to find some component of the system that wasn't designed to handle the amount of traffic about to be sent to it.

There are protections for DDoS (iptables, fail2ban, Cloudflare and so on), you have to figure out a way around them, that's a hack.

Who gives a fuck about the travails of corporations on the internet?

The entire capitalist world only cares about that.

Feeling concern for the welfare of a corporation is a lot like caring for a lion or some other large predator. You don't want to see it suffer but you know that it could turn on you at any moment, when it's convenient for them.

LOL you're so bad at propaganda.

"The freedom of both women and the general public is not solely dictated by healthcare and the ability to attain higher education"
I never said that, just mentioned one of those still important facts to show they're better than the US of which I could also mention many more horrible facts.

Freedom is also not defined by wearing a heascarf or not.
Neither does your cherrypicking about access to the external internet.
A temporary measure in time of war, is that the best you got?

And just check my comments from yesterday, turns out I was 100% right.

Iran did indeed a symbolic attack on bases evacuated 5 days ago, even reported then and they gave the USSA warning.
I also said Iran needed the symbolic attack to sell to their people as revenge.
As I predicted in that comment the theatre of BOTH symbolic attacks, the USSA one and the Iranian one are over just to get the ultimate goal:
Pissrahell can have its way out of a losing war since the imaginary nuclear threat is imaginary bombed. And what do you know, just after this they have a ceasefire.
Unfortunate actually that Iran let them off the hook.
Was going great and heartwarming images from occupied Palestine.
See, you don't understand geopolitics and its optics.
But then again, that's not your job, spouting(easily debunked)crappy lies and propaganda is.

Not even sure why/were you're even taking this. They said a major outage was no worse than a website being overwhelmed by shoppers. I pointed out it's in fact waaayyy worse. I don't give a fuck about the corporations lost time.