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  • It is usually due to "budget cuts" as the easiest way to kill a project is to defend it.

    Juno Jupiter flyby

    Maven mission to mars

    New horizons kbo flyby

    Terra mission-earth science satellite

    Aqua mission -earth science satellite

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    SLS-which may actually be a bad program but is a good example of the political issues with NASA vs senate.

    Juno Jupiter flyby

    But Juno went to Jupiter?

  • Juno Jupiter flyby

    But Juno went to Jupiter?

    These programs require continuous funding. The probe went to Jupiter. The scientist and listening stations back on earth still have to run to receive the data.

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    Don't buy into the grifts. Dismantle them.

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    we should probably invest in making sure people have affordable housing, food, and healthcare before worrying about militarising space.

  • is not that NASA when developed the rocket that culminated with the Apollo V did not even had a rocket exploding
    

    dude english, wtf is this sentence even supposed to say? are you an LLM?

    Nope, just a regular guy that do not speak English as first language.

    But let me rephrase it, even if i am sure you understand what I mean.
    When NASA was developing the rocket to go to the moon (the Apollo V) they had their large shares of failures, exactly like SpaceX is having now while developing Starship (and before it, the Falcon 9) which is even more complex and bigger than the Apollo V.

    Then that Musk is sometime a little too borderline is true, but I suppose that now he cannot really ruin any of his companies, for whatever you can think about him I really doubt that he is that stupid.
    

    again with the word salad. english better be your third or 4th language.

    You are right. But again, I am sure you understand what I mean, but ok, let me rephrase also this.
    Musk is sometime too borderline but I suppose that actually he really don't want to ruin his companies because, for bad as you can think about him, I think is not that stupid.

    if you doubt his stupidity, then evaluate the logic of doing large amounts OF HORSE TRANQUALIZER WHILE MANAGING MULTIPLE COMPANIES AND LAUNCHING ROCKETS.

    Come on, make that one make sense word salad llm

    Wait, do you really think that Musk is the one that is doing all the jobs at Tesla and SpaceX ?
    Again, you can think what you want about Musk himself, but the track record for SpaceX (over 250 launch in 2024) and Tesla (it demostrated something that every other car manufacturer deemed impossible) does not seems too bad.
    And I would like to have an estimate about the "large amounts"

    But feel free to attack my grammar and hate Musk.

    When NASA was developing the rocket to go to the moon (the Apollo V) they had their large shares of failures, exactly like SpaceX is having now while developing Starship (and before it, the Falcon 9) which is even more complex and bigger than the Apollo V.

    this is a specious comparison. NASA was racing the soviets using 1950 and 60's tech, and it cost lives, but there was a driving motivation for the tempo (kennedy's goal of humans on the moon first). There's no contemporary equivalent. And no NASA director was EVER ON HORSE DRUGS. Period.

    Nor did any NASA director ever try to manage multiple fortune 500 companies WHILE on ketamine while DANCING AROUND WITH A CHAINSAW and fucking with our government.

    Your comparison is invalid.

    Wait, do you really think that Musk is the one that is doing all the jobs at Tesla and SpaceX ?

    No, I think he's distorting the work of thousands of talented people (Shotwell down) for EGO. If he truly cared he'd step down.

    None of this is complex. I'm glad you speak english well enough to reorder your thoughts in a comprehensible manner, but the premise remains unchanged. Musk represents a larger threat to SpaceX and NASA and the US than any potential benefit to those same parties.

    I will feel free to attack musk, didn't need your permission but thanks!

  • When NASA was developing the rocket to go to the moon (the Apollo V) they had their large shares of failures, exactly like SpaceX is having now while developing Starship (and before it, the Falcon 9) which is even more complex and bigger than the Apollo V.

    this is a specious comparison. NASA was racing the soviets using 1950 and 60's tech, and it cost lives, but there was a driving motivation for the tempo (kennedy's goal of humans on the moon first). There's no contemporary equivalent. And no NASA director was EVER ON HORSE DRUGS. Period.

    Nor did any NASA director ever try to manage multiple fortune 500 companies WHILE on ketamine while DANCING AROUND WITH A CHAINSAW and fucking with our government.

    Your comparison is invalid.

    Wait, do you really think that Musk is the one that is doing all the jobs at Tesla and SpaceX ?

    No, I think he's distorting the work of thousands of talented people (Shotwell down) for EGO. If he truly cared he'd step down.

    None of this is complex. I'm glad you speak english well enough to reorder your thoughts in a comprehensible manner, but the premise remains unchanged. Musk represents a larger threat to SpaceX and NASA and the US than any potential benefit to those same parties.

    I will feel free to attack musk, didn't need your permission but thanks!

    When NASA was developing the rocket to go to the moon (the Apollo V) they had their large shares of failures, exactly like SpaceX is having now while developing Starship (and before it, the Falcon 9) which is even more complex and bigger than the Apollo V.

    this is a specious comparison. NASA was racing the soviets using 1950 and 60’s tech, and it cost lives, but there was a driving motivation for the tempo (kennedy’s goal of humans on the moon first). There’s no contemporary equivalent. And no NASA director was EVER ON HORSE DRUGS. Period.

    Your comparison is invalid.

    Only if you could link the fact that Musk is on horse drugs with the fact that Starship explodes.
    The starting point was that I dismissed the point that Musk is ruining SpaceX (since Starship's test are not that good) and the fact that he is on drugs.

    Nor did any NASA director ever try to manage multiple fortune 500 companies WHILE on ketamine while DANCING AROUND WITH A CHAINSAW and fucking with our government.

    I don't see the problem: NASA was a state agency, SpaceX is private.
    What I can see from here is that Musk is doing the right thing (trying to make the government more efficient and cheaper) using a completely wrong method, to which I agree.

    Wait, do you really think that Musk is the one that is doing all the jobs at Tesla and SpaceX ?

    No, I think he’s distorting the work of thousands of talented people (Shotwell down) for EGO. If he truly cared he’d step down.

    I don't think it could do it anymore, at least not to the level you think.

    Musk represents a larger threat to SpaceX and NASA and the US than any potential benefit to those same parties.

    I am not sure. What I think from here (Europe) is that, as I said, Musk is doing the right thing in the wrong (very wrong) way if we speak about DOGE. If we speak about SpaceX and Tesla, well, it don't seems to do that bad after all.

  • When NASA was developing the rocket to go to the moon (the Apollo V) they had their large shares of failures, exactly like SpaceX is having now while developing Starship (and before it, the Falcon 9) which is even more complex and bigger than the Apollo V.

    this is a specious comparison. NASA was racing the soviets using 1950 and 60’s tech, and it cost lives, but there was a driving motivation for the tempo (kennedy’s goal of humans on the moon first). There’s no contemporary equivalent. And no NASA director was EVER ON HORSE DRUGS. Period.

    Your comparison is invalid.

    Only if you could link the fact that Musk is on horse drugs with the fact that Starship explodes.
    The starting point was that I dismissed the point that Musk is ruining SpaceX (since Starship's test are not that good) and the fact that he is on drugs.

    Nor did any NASA director ever try to manage multiple fortune 500 companies WHILE on ketamine while DANCING AROUND WITH A CHAINSAW and fucking with our government.

    I don't see the problem: NASA was a state agency, SpaceX is private.
    What I can see from here is that Musk is doing the right thing (trying to make the government more efficient and cheaper) using a completely wrong method, to which I agree.

    Wait, do you really think that Musk is the one that is doing all the jobs at Tesla and SpaceX ?

    No, I think he’s distorting the work of thousands of talented people (Shotwell down) for EGO. If he truly cared he’d step down.

    I don't think it could do it anymore, at least not to the level you think.

    Musk represents a larger threat to SpaceX and NASA and the US than any potential benefit to those same parties.

    I am not sure. What I think from here (Europe) is that, as I said, Musk is doing the right thing in the wrong (very wrong) way if we speak about DOGE. If we speak about SpaceX and Tesla, well, it don't seems to do that bad after all.

    I don’t see the problem: NASA was a state agency, SpaceX is private.

    lives are literally at stake, grow the fuck up.

    Elon Musk decided to wreck USAID. The death toll is ghoulish. This dickwad said "the fundamental weakness of western civilization is empathy".

    If we speak about SpaceX and Tesla, well, it don’t seems to do that bad after all.

    haha tesla is cratering in the EU and that cybertruck sure is a winner. pfft

    You are so detached from reality it's disgusting. This discussion has been absolutely pointless.

  • I don’t see the problem: NASA was a state agency, SpaceX is private.

    lives are literally at stake, grow the fuck up.

    Elon Musk decided to wreck USAID. The death toll is ghoulish. This dickwad said "the fundamental weakness of western civilization is empathy".

    If we speak about SpaceX and Tesla, well, it don’t seems to do that bad after all.

    haha tesla is cratering in the EU and that cybertruck sure is a winner. pfft

    You are so detached from reality it's disgusting. This discussion has been absolutely pointless.

    I don’t see the problem: NASA was a state agency, SpaceX is private.

    lives are literally at stake, grow the fuck up.

    And incidentally SpaceX is the only US entity to have a ship certified for human flight. Where is the Dragon's equivalent of NASA ? Or any other company/state agency.

    Elon Musk decided to wreck USAID. The death toll is ghoulish.

    An agency created in the 1960's to fight URSS influence. Maybe it is time to let it go and start with something else, don't you think ?
    Or maybe it is time that US start to think that without everyone else it is nothing and begin to be an reliable ally and not one that can change idea every 2 years.

    This dickwad said “the fundamental weakness of western civilization is empathy”.

    To be honest, empathy is something you should be aware of after a certain point.

    But whatever...

  • A strawman is when somebody mischaracterize an argument, calling someone a tankie is not that.

  • And this is relevant how?

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    I spent way too long researching the morning. That industry implies a much greater population that is attracted to children. Things get more nuanced. People are attracted to different stages, like prebubesant, early adolescence, and mid to late adolescence. It seems like an important distinction because this is a common mental disorder. I was ready to write this comment about my fear that there's a bunch of evil pedophiles living among us who are simply deterred by legal or social pressures. It seems more like the extreme stigma of pedophilia has prevented individuals from seeking assistance and has resulted in more child sexual abuse. This sort of disorder can be caused by experiencing this abuse at a younger age. When I was religious, we worked closely with an organization to help victims of trafficking. We had their stories. They entered our lives. I took care of some of these kids. As a victim of sexual abuse when I was kid, I had a hatred for these kinds of people. I feel like my brain is melting seeing how there is a high chance of people in my life being attracted to children. This isn't really to justify the industry. I'm just realizing that general harassing people openly about it might not be helping the situation.
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    I'm not questioning whether or not the game is good, just wondering why Apple would want to limit their customer base so much.
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    Nextdoor is an absolute black hole social media site, it absorbs the worst of humanity so we don't have to see them anywhere else.
  • The silent force behind online echo chambers? Your Google search

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    Same on all counts.
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    The thing about compelling lies is not that they are new, just that they are easier to expand. The most common effect of compelling lies is their ability to get well-intentioned people to support malign causes and give their money to fraudsters. So, expect that to expand, kind of like it already has been. The big question for me is what the response will be. Will we make lying illegal? Will we become a world of ever more paranoid isolationists, returning to clans, families, households, as the largest social group you can trust? Will most people even have the intelligence to see what is happenning and respond? Or will most people be turned into info-puppets, controlled into behaviours by manipulation of their information diet to an unprecedented degree? I don't know.
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    ... robo chomo?