Massive internet outage reported: Google services, Cloudflare, Character.AI among dozens of services impacted
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schrieb am 13. Juni 2025, 17:43 zuletzt editiert von
c/selfhosted having a field day rn
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I remember the day I went why are we all selfhosting and still relying on a site like Cloudflare?.
I'm glad I agreed with me on it.
schrieb am 13. Juni 2025, 17:59 zuletzt editiert vonI used Cloudflare tunneling for a while, then started to have similar thoughts. I'm off Cloudflare now.
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c/selfhosted having a field day rn
schrieb am 13. Juni 2025, 18:06 zuletzt editiert von -
Dafuq is a character.ai and why is it in the same list as google and cloudflare? Like yea my local grocery store had some issues should that be on the list too?
schrieb am 13. Juni 2025, 18:18 zuletzt editiert vonAn AI chatbot that pretends to be a character and you roleplay with it.
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Dafuq is a character.ai and why is it in the same list as google and cloudflare? Like yea my local grocery store had some issues should that be on the list too?
schrieb am 13. Juni 2025, 18:38 zuletzt editiert vonHad to include something AI because of the craze, probably picked at random
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The way CDNs and virtual hosts work in general is to read the host field in the HTTP header, otherwise unless you dedicate an IP for each domain / “web site” there would be no way to know what to serve.
But the point of CDNs is to direct connections to a geographically-near IP, yes?
The domain name that any CDN webserver in different regions will get in the HTTP request headers is going to be the same, CNAME or no.
The issue is if you put the CNAME of foo www.foo-cloudflare-cdn.com. then it will just resolve to whatever the A/AAAA record is for that, and send the host of www.foo.com – which they will only service if that domain is hosted with their nameservers (they run automated checks to make sure you’re actually doing so).
Ah, okay, I could see someone having automated checks that actively prevent it.
schrieb am 13. Juni 2025, 20:25 zuletzt editiert von glitchvid@lemmy.worldBut the point of CDNs is to direct connections to a geographically-near IP, yes?
That's generally right enough, the goal of a CDN is to deliver content from a server close to the consumer as possible (ideally on their ISP network using cache servers to avoid going out over the "wider internet".) – however CDN networks typically also use Anycast IP addresses, which means that all of the CDN servers across their network use the same pool of IP addresses, and BGP / the routing table dictate what actual physical server you get routed to. This is typically the ideal closest server, however sometimes you want certain IP pools in certain regions for legal (China), or technical reasons, so the IP address returned by a given A/AAAA lookup for a CDN isn't a given.
There's also ECN and other optimization CDNs can do on the lookup side but that's outside of the scope here.The domain name that any CDN webserver in different regions will get in the HTTP request headers is going to be the same, CNAME or no.
Yeah, so the CNAME just says "whatever A/AAAA address that resolves to" and the HTTP client will send whatever
HOST
it thinks its connecting to, meaning you can't "mask" the actual domain you're using by using a CNAME record.Technically if you have a totally static IP serving a single site, it's possible to ignore the HOST field and always serve that site, since logically, any request is only meant for that given site (this is basically the default site on something like Apache).
My main point is that there's really no getting around that CloudFlare requires you to be locked in to their platform even if you just wanna serve R2 files from a subdomain, and I personally find that a bit spooky, migrating nameservers can have very long propagation times leaving your site unreachable if they decide they don't want you as a customer anymore, or as a shakedown.
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Lol the power is out and this guy thinks he's gonna get overnight deliveries smh
/s
schrieb am 13. Juni 2025, 20:58 zuletzt editiert vonSee, there's still a niche for the internal combustion engine over electric. Good luck driving your tesla in a blackout!
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Uh huh, just before a major democracy attacked an evil, evil country. Must be coincidence.
schrieb am 13. Juni 2025, 21:11 zuletzt editiert vonAnd that other huge democracy ongoing attacks on its own cities and economy.
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c/selfhosted having a field day rn
schrieb am 13. Juni 2025, 21:11 zuletzt editiert vonYeah, wonder how those cloudflare(d) tunnels werd keeping up.
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Uh huh, just before a major democracy attacked an evil, evil country. Must be coincidence.
schrieb am 13. Juni 2025, 21:13 zuletzt editiert vonEverything is a conspiracy when you don't know how anything works
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Everything is a conspiracy when you don't know how anything works
schrieb am 13. Juni 2025, 22:19 zuletzt editiert vonSo tell me, how does the world work? We all hold hands and hug and cry together?
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schrieb am 13. Juni 2025, 22:38 zuletzt editiert von
??? My shit is working.
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Uh huh, just before a major democracy attacked an evil, evil country. Must be coincidence.
schrieb am 13. Juni 2025, 23:21 zuletzt editiert vonYou're funny.
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An AI chatbot that pretends to be a character and you roleplay with it.
schrieb am 14. Juni 2025, 01:06 zuletzt editiert vonBack in my day, we just told Cleverbot to suck our dicks
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Minority browsers. Since I daily drive Pale Moon, I'm among the people affected. It's suspected that they test only the 3-4 most popular browsers, and whether anything else works with their code is up to luck.
You may think browsers with tiny market shares aren't important, but all new browsers start out that way. I fear for Ladybird if it ever makes it past the alpha stage, for instance.
schrieb am 14. Juni 2025, 07:55 zuletzt editiert vonI'm super interested in alternative browsers but never have the time to test them. I always wonder what the Internet would be like if we built it from scratch right now instead of having the legacy of 30 years of development to support.
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So tell me, how does the world work? We all hold hands and hug and cry together?
schrieb am 14. Juni 2025, 09:14 zuletzt editiert voneventually
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Had to include something AI because of the craze, probably picked at random
schrieb am 14. Juni 2025, 12:20 zuletzt editiert vonIt is very used actually. There's a lot of lonely people...
(I don't use it tho, I just yell at the void on Fedi)
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So tell me, how does the world work? We all hold hands and hug and cry together?
schrieb am 14. Juni 2025, 15:09 zuletzt editiert von sirquack@feddit.nlI'm gonna Kum ba yah so hard, you won't be able to stop me!
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I put on my robe and wizard hat
schrieb am 14. Juni 2025, 15:50 zuletzt editiert vonIs that a bash reference? Jesus im old
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I'm gonna Kum ba yah so hard, you won't be able to stop me!
schrieb am 14. Juni 2025, 16:23 zuletzt editiert vonMaybe I don't want you to stop, big boy.