AI company files for bankruptcy after being exposed as 700 Indian engineers - Dexerto
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It says it's been doing this for 8 years. So, since AI hasn't even been around that long, does that mean they were always like this and just lied that they switched over to AI? I wonder if they just encouraged the current employees to field the response and then they would run it through another AI to provide answers. Either way there had to be some delay which I feel would have been the dead giveaway?
schrieb am 3. Juni 2025, 13:07 zuletzt editiert vonUsing machine learning including neuronal networks, generative AI based off of neuronal networks and so on exist well longer than since the past few years.
"DeepDream" was released as a software ten years ago. Research into LLMs exists since at least the 90s.
"AI" also has been a hype term in many industries since a decade, just that it reached the general public with the ChatGPT hype.
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Ahh yes, the mechanical indian
schrieb am 3. Juni 2025, 13:07 zuletzt editiert vonThe Indian Turk or short IT-worker.
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I'm being increasingly convinced that when we do develop true AI, it'll actually be just a massive array of interconnected human brains in a secret facility somewhere.
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Actually Indians
schrieb am 3. Juni 2025, 13:37 zuletzt editiert vonLike from Gary?
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Isn't this exactly what was exposed at the Amazon "Just Walk Out" stores? Turns out all the cameras and sensors weren't good enough, so they paid thousands of people in India to watch videos and correct checkouts. They basically just outsourced the position of cashier, while pretending it was all done automatically!
Amazon Ditches 'Just Walk Out' Checkouts at Its Grocery Stores
Amazon Fresh is moving away from a feature of its grocery stores where customers could skip checkout altogether.
Gizmodo (gizmodo.com)
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First to push forward and invented AAI, Artificial Artificial Intelligence.
schrieb am 3. Juni 2025, 14:07 zuletzt editiert vonLet's see them compete with natural stupidity
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Isn't this exactly what was exposed at the Amazon "Just Walk Out" stores? Turns out all the cameras and sensors weren't good enough, so they paid thousands of people in India to watch videos and correct checkouts. They basically just outsourced the position of cashier, while pretending it was all done automatically!
Amazon Ditches 'Just Walk Out' Checkouts at Its Grocery Stores
Amazon Fresh is moving away from a feature of its grocery stores where customers could skip checkout altogether.
Gizmodo (gizmodo.com)
schrieb am 3. Juni 2025, 14:20 zuletzt editiert vonYes, it's the exact same practice.
The main difference, though, is that Amazon as a company doesn't rely on this "just walk out" business in a capacity that is relevant to the overall financial situation of the company. So Amazon churns along, while that one insignificant business unit gets quietly shut down.
For this company in this post, though, they don't have a trillion dollar business subsidizing the losses from this AI scheme.
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This post did not contain any content.schrieb am 3. Juni 2025, 14:58 zuletzt editiert von septimaeus@infosec.pub 6. März 2025, 22:36
Weird headline. I know they mean “exposed as another mechanical turk ‘AI’ company” but headline appears to imply simply having Indian engineers was the problem.
Edit: added explanatory link to the technical term to clarify
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Isn't this exactly what was exposed at the Amazon "Just Walk Out" stores? Turns out all the cameras and sensors weren't good enough, so they paid thousands of people in India to watch videos and correct checkouts. They basically just outsourced the position of cashier, while pretending it was all done automatically!
Amazon Ditches 'Just Walk Out' Checkouts at Its Grocery Stores
Amazon Fresh is moving away from a feature of its grocery stores where customers could skip checkout altogether.
Gizmodo (gizmodo.com)
schrieb am 3. Juni 2025, 15:08 zuletzt editiert vonPeoole aren’t appreciating just how bad these things are because they’re misinterpreting it. The goal of what they are doing here and with Amazon was never to just fake the technology right. The goal was to fake that the technology existed by using humans to do an automated thing and then to leverage that into making it actually automated.
But essentially what that means is theyre inventing technology that hasn’t been invented yet and selling it to you and the reason for doing so is to replace you with technology before it can even technically happen.
It’s essentially like someone building a new automated factory and telling workers at their other locations that they can’t be hired there since it’s automated but then someone goes inside and finds out they’re just using child laborers until the robots are ready and also robots haven’t been invented yet.
They’re using blood to grease wheels that don’t even exist to turn yet.
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Like from Gary?
schrieb am 3. Juni 2025, 16:12 zuletzt editiert vonMore likely Gary's neighbor or brother.
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Indians all the way down
schrieb am 3. Juni 2025, 16:13 zuletzt editiert vonWearing turtle costumes.
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Actually Indian
schrieb am 3. Juni 2025, 16:25 zuletzt editiert vonAll Indian
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Isn't this exactly what was exposed at the Amazon "Just Walk Out" stores? Turns out all the cameras and sensors weren't good enough, so they paid thousands of people in India to watch videos and correct checkouts. They basically just outsourced the position of cashier, while pretending it was all done automatically!
Amazon Ditches 'Just Walk Out' Checkouts at Its Grocery Stores
Amazon Fresh is moving away from a feature of its grocery stores where customers could skip checkout altogether.
Gizmodo (gizmodo.com)
schrieb am 3. Juni 2025, 16:38 zuletzt editiert vonAnd many delivery robots are helped along by a remote worker.
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What’s next? Am I going to find out my AI girlfriend is actually a real woman? Smh my head, can’t trust anything these days
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Peoole aren’t appreciating just how bad these things are because they’re misinterpreting it. The goal of what they are doing here and with Amazon was never to just fake the technology right. The goal was to fake that the technology existed by using humans to do an automated thing and then to leverage that into making it actually automated.
But essentially what that means is theyre inventing technology that hasn’t been invented yet and selling it to you and the reason for doing so is to replace you with technology before it can even technically happen.
It’s essentially like someone building a new automated factory and telling workers at their other locations that they can’t be hired there since it’s automated but then someone goes inside and finds out they’re just using child laborers until the robots are ready and also robots haven’t been invented yet.
They’re using blood to grease wheels that don’t even exist to turn yet.
schrieb am 3. Juni 2025, 17:49 zuletzt editiert vonOn the other hand, the only way to get good training data is to generate data indistinguishable from the real-world scenario and then have humans mark it up the way you want the system to do it. You might as well have the data actually be from the real world and recoup some of the costs with sales.
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On the other hand, the only way to get good training data is to generate data indistinguishable from the real-world scenario and then have humans mark it up the way you want the system to do it. You might as well have the data actually be from the real world and recoup some of the costs with sales.
schrieb am 3. Juni 2025, 17:53 zuletzt editiert von dopeoplelookhere@sh.itjust.works 6. März 2025, 19:53Sure, but you still shouldn't be selling the technology as actually working, instead of developing.
Amazon bought whole foods a while back. What would have stopped them from just collecting the data in their own stores, and then developed the tech?
Hint: shareholder value.
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Yes, it's the exact same practice.
The main difference, though, is that Amazon as a company doesn't rely on this "just walk out" business in a capacity that is relevant to the overall financial situation of the company. So Amazon churns along, while that one insignificant business unit gets quietly shut down.
For this company in this post, though, they don't have a trillion dollar business subsidizing the losses from this AI scheme.
schrieb am 3. Juni 2025, 18:01 zuletzt editiert vonJWO hasn't shut down. The system got polished enough for them to sell it to other companies, so they don't need their own test-platform locations anymore.
JWO and similar systems do not reduce labor. The people working cashier become customer service attendants. These systems are valuable when the issue is throughput and sales are being lost at peak times. Airport convenience stores and stadium concession stands, for example, can get significantly higher revenue for the same footprint.
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All Indian
schrieb am 3. Juni 2025, 18:35 zuletzt editiert vonAnother Indian
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