AI cheating surge pushes schools into chaos
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I know the article mentions these, but it's time to bring back oral exams and handwritten-in-class essays
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I know the article mentions these, but it's time to bring back oral exams and handwritten-in-class essays
Nah fuck that shit I was so glad when everything moved to computers in schools. Kids are never gonna need to handwrite or speak in their lives, they need typing practice.
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I know the article mentions these, but it's time to bring back oral exams and handwritten-in-class essays
I could never write essays by hand. Too often I would write out a paragraph just to read it, break it up, and subsequently rewrite both parts.
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College professor here. The way I see it, AI is inevitable and it's here to stay. Fighting against AI would be like trying to fight against pocket calculators in the 70s. It's coming whether we like it or not, in class and in the real world; so we need to focus on adjusting the curriculums to work with it, rather than against it.
Right now, a lot of course curriculums are predominantly regurgitation based learning: I'll tell you X, you tell me X but in 3 months. But AI trivializes that way of thinking. If I want to, I can get ChatGPT to generate an entire essay on the impact of ink drying speeds to the colour of grass. Whatever I want, it takes it 10s to write. However, LLMs still struggle with critical thinking, nuances, and originality; which I think is the more important aspect of education.
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I know the article mentions these, but it's time to bring back oral exams and handwritten-in-class essays
Chromebooks these days have locked down modes for tests where you can only acess the test and maybe desmos, I think newer AP tests are done this way at the highschool I went to.
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Maybe students should be given very locked-down computers. They can run school-approved software and access school-approved websites, nothing else.
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I could never write essays by hand. Too often I would write out a paragraph just to read it, break it up, and subsequently rewrite both parts.
That's why you gotta write your outline first!
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College professor here. The way I see it, AI is inevitable and it's here to stay. Fighting against AI would be like trying to fight against pocket calculators in the 70s. It's coming whether we like it or not, in class and in the real world; so we need to focus on adjusting the curriculums to work with it, rather than against it.
Right now, a lot of course curriculums are predominantly regurgitation based learning: I'll tell you X, you tell me X but in 3 months. But AI trivializes that way of thinking. If I want to, I can get ChatGPT to generate an entire essay on the impact of ink drying speeds to the colour of grass. Whatever I want, it takes it 10s to write. However, LLMs still struggle with critical thinking, nuances, and originality; which I think is the more important aspect of education.
so in a way, ai makes lazy teaching methods more clearly useless since you can just generate essays
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College professor here. The way I see it, AI is inevitable and it's here to stay. Fighting against AI would be like trying to fight against pocket calculators in the 70s. It's coming whether we like it or not, in class and in the real world; so we need to focus on adjusting the curriculums to work with it, rather than against it.
Right now, a lot of course curriculums are predominantly regurgitation based learning: I'll tell you X, you tell me X but in 3 months. But AI trivializes that way of thinking. If I want to, I can get ChatGPT to generate an entire essay on the impact of ink drying speeds to the colour of grass. Whatever I want, it takes it 10s to write. However, LLMs still struggle with critical thinking, nuances, and originality; which I think is the more important aspect of education.
Teaching critical thinking?
Every LLM has a Silver lining?
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College professor here. The way I see it, AI is inevitable and it's here to stay. Fighting against AI would be like trying to fight against pocket calculators in the 70s. It's coming whether we like it or not, in class and in the real world; so we need to focus on adjusting the curriculums to work with it, rather than against it.
Right now, a lot of course curriculums are predominantly regurgitation based learning: I'll tell you X, you tell me X but in 3 months. But AI trivializes that way of thinking. If I want to, I can get ChatGPT to generate an entire essay on the impact of ink drying speeds to the colour of grass. Whatever I want, it takes it 10s to write. However, LLMs still struggle with critical thinking, nuances, and originality; which I think is the more important aspect of education.
Teaching critical thinking?
Every LLM has a Silver lining?
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That's why you gotta write your outline first!
Nah man, waterfall technique applies to everything.
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I know the article mentions these, but it's time to bring back oral exams and handwritten-in-class essays
What about those with dysgraphia? Are we going to punish the teacher who has to read that mess? Lol
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I know the article mentions these, but it's time to bring back oral exams and handwritten-in-class essays
Yay, lets punish the kid with tremors in their hand and lose 20 points for no fucking reason
The good ol' days of ableist school admins
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When schools make the objective of school education then children will prioritize learning the material.
The goal is to keep them in day care while their parents are at work and getting a degree because it's the bare minimum requirement for a shit load of jobs.
Tests and homework can be easily gamed, cheating is literally the smart thing to do if that gets you through it to the degree.
I had a classmate in college who paid his friend to take his finals for him IN PERSON. The classes were so big the teacher didn't know what he looked like. These days he gets 90k/yr reprogramming streetlights.
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College professor here. The way I see it, AI is inevitable and it's here to stay. Fighting against AI would be like trying to fight against pocket calculators in the 70s. It's coming whether we like it or not, in class and in the real world; so we need to focus on adjusting the curriculums to work with it, rather than against it.
Right now, a lot of course curriculums are predominantly regurgitation based learning: I'll tell you X, you tell me X but in 3 months. But AI trivializes that way of thinking. If I want to, I can get ChatGPT to generate an entire essay on the impact of ink drying speeds to the colour of grass. Whatever I want, it takes it 10s to write. However, LLMs still struggle with critical thinking, nuances, and originality; which I think is the more important aspect of education.
Since this is your area, I'm very curious -- how do you design a curriculum to teach critical thinking, nuances, and originality?
Is it like asking for an original take on your literature piece?
Is it like being given someone else's essay and having to write what you think about it?
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At this point the cat is out of the bag, I'm doing uni currently and have used ai to assist, though I've only used the ai to help me understand topics, or asked it to give me practise questions, never given it an assignment question or asked it to gen my answers for me.
As a sort of personal tutor it can be really great. I was thinking about how you can try to encourage students to use it without cheating, and the only thing that came to me was if the education system maintained its own "virtual tutor" ai, one that was specifically designed to prevent cheating and encourage ethical use.
Not sure though, it's a tough problem to deal with, I guess the other option is just more controlled tests, which no one likes.
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Yay, lets punish the kid with tremors in their hand and lose 20 points for no fucking reason
The good ol' days of ableist school admins
I doubt a kid with tremors would be unable to get an exception made for them. I have tremors and in the mid 2000s my teachers were offering me test taking options like computers and other methods.
I always refused because I was stubborn.
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Nah fuck that shit I was so glad when everything moved to computers in schools. Kids are never gonna need to handwrite or speak in their lives, they need typing practice.
Downvoted for speaking the truth. Can't wait till I don't have to write a signature on a check anymore, it doesn't even fucking matter.
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I could never write essays by hand. Too often I would write out a paragraph just to read it, break it up, and subsequently rewrite both parts.
One typewriter for you
