Spotify fans threaten to return to piracy as music streamer introduces new face-scanning age checks in the UK
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I dont understand this take. This is a "think of the children" bs that panders to (certain) citizens. Also a thinly veiled attempt at data collection of its citizens en masse
Sounds like you understand the take perfectly
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Its as if law makers don't learn from history. Do they not know what happened in the 90s and early 2000s when stores wouldn't sell M rated video games or CDs with mature content labels? We found ways to get around that. We would go to stores that didn't check or care, got our older sibling or friend to buy it for us. We burned copies of our friends CDs, or downloaded stuff off line with Limewire and Napster.
Same shit when there was prohibition in the US. People drove cars across the great lakes to bring alcohol into the US. People brewed there own spirits in bathtubs with radiator coils.
If people want to anomalously watch their favorite weird kinky shit or listing to music they like, they're going to find a way. And, if the easiest way to do that is through piracy, that is what they are going to do.
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Never understood Spotifys appeal. Youtube has always been better imo.
The few dumb artists who only release music there and nowhere else, the better streaming quality (I guess? I've read it somewhere), and slightly better at suggesting/categorizing music genres. I don't use it because all the time I'd see people cry "I wish this was on Spotify!!!" in a YT comment section, and YT music had everything I wanted. Plus YT free is way more bearable that Spotify free, and I use ReVanced now anyway.
But yeah Spotify always sucked to me and I'm tired of those who shame others for not using it. The "Apple green bubble shaming" of the music world.
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Spotify fans?
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What issues are you having with the mobile app?
They're not issues so much as nit-picks.
On the now playing screen, I try to swipe the album image to skip (like Spotify) but it doesn't. Yes, the skip button is right there, but when driving it's needlessly distracting to have to find the small button.
There's no obvious way to see your play history when it's on auto play or radio.
You can start a station from a single song, and you can add song variety to a single-song station, and you can let a playlist end and it will autoplay songs, but you can't create a station from a playlist directly. These seem like the same function but are treated differently.
You can 'collect' or '
' a song from radio/autoplay, and it's implied that it influences the station to do the latter, but all the songs go to their own playlist and sometimes a 'songs you liked from this station' playlist separate from the station and sometimes in the station page. It can unintuitive.There's no API so there's no way for TuneMyMusic to import my playlists from Spotify.
Adding a song to a playlist often fails the first time, I can mash it but it doesn't go, but if I back out and add it again it works.
Some of these can be chalked up to user error, I haven't gotten used to the paradigm change, but the app still feels rigid and "less polished". Like I said, nitpicks.
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They're not issues so much as nit-picks.
On the now playing screen, I try to swipe the album image to skip (like Spotify) but it doesn't. Yes, the skip button is right there, but when driving it's needlessly distracting to have to find the small button.
There's no obvious way to see your play history when it's on auto play or radio.
You can start a station from a single song, and you can add song variety to a single-song station, and you can let a playlist end and it will autoplay songs, but you can't create a station from a playlist directly. These seem like the same function but are treated differently.
You can 'collect' or '
' a song from radio/autoplay, and it's implied that it influences the station to do the latter, but all the songs go to their own playlist and sometimes a 'songs you liked from this station' playlist separate from the station and sometimes in the station page. It can unintuitive.There's no API so there's no way for TuneMyMusic to import my playlists from Spotify.
Adding a song to a playlist often fails the first time, I can mash it but it doesn't go, but if I back out and add it again it works.
Some of these can be chalked up to user error, I haven't gotten used to the paradigm change, but the app still feels rigid and "less polished". Like I said, nitpicks.
You can import your liked songs fyi but yeah I didn't see anything about playlists or liked artists
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You're way better off with your own music collection. That is what I have. I use Tauon music box it handles large playlists well.
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My concerns with space mostly deals with my cell phone but you make a lot of great point of being able to convert Flac for any use case. Thank you for your input.
TBF, I was answering your question in its original context (is it worth it for audiophiles). Maybe it's just my age, but I was assuming that the majority of audiophiles still keep the bulk of their music collection stored on a desktop PC. But IDK, I'm in my late 30s and out of touch.
Anyway I'm happy to help.
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Back to Piracy!
️Really though? It isn't necessary. Use Bandcamp, you probably have half your artists covered. The rest - one of those Spotify alternatives: Tidal? Qobuz?
Personally I do selfhost btw. Jellyfin, though I heard of a better alternative specifically for music recently - and forgot the name again
Something lowercase, like a verb... "normalize" or some such.Navidrome! Thanks @0konomiyaki@aussie.zonemore like 3% bandcamp availability. i know this is a linux/trans/selfhost/overpayeddev/westeu/foss echochamber, but im not wasting electricity and money on selfhost if a 1tb sd card in my phone can do the same thing offline.
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Life is the highway you boof
"Life is a one way street, I'm doing doughnuts."
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Do you prefer to give your personal id to any site in the world instead of using the same app which you pay your taxes with?
I'd prefer my internet free...
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I would suggest Qobuz (if available) or Tidal. Deezer's CEO is a hard-core religious nutjob who finances anti-trans orgs and sexual conversion "therapies".
Ah dang.
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Why do you think they keep blowing thelself up?
I have honestly no clue what you mean. Could you explain?
You’re mostly supporting the industry that encouraged your favorite artists to kill themselves once they’re not profitable anymore
Which is why I'm actively searching for the best possible options.
When I learned that Spotify is fleecing artists, I moved to Tidal.
Then I learned about the French Qobuz, which pays artists even more, and I switched.
I support artists on Bandcamp. I buy physical CDs and will soon fire up a vinyl collection.
I'm aware that 100% of the money I spent on art doesn't go to the artist, but even if it's 10%, it's going to be 100% more than if I resorted to piracy.
Supporting piracy to show corpos the finger is the equivalent of stealing CDs from a music store, because the store price includes the store's margin, transport costs, manufacturing costs, and only a (relatively) small percentage goes to the artists.
Ah yes you wouldn't download a carp
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Why would I support local artists if an artist from abroad makes the music I love?
And, if their music is not available locally, nor they have a Bandcamp/similar account, how do I support them if not through streaming services?
Idk go there?
If you're ever in Europe I have a couch
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There are fans of Spotify?
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Just a friendly reminder that the OSA was never about safeguarding kids from seeing porn.
Are the government seriously worried about a child being exposed to Break Stuff or So What on Spotify?
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is basically a state’s rights argument
No, it's a privacy and individual rights argument. I don't want local governments enforcing it any more than I want national arguments enforcing it.
Kids seeing stuff they shouldn't isn't itself a problem, but it can lead to problems. For example, kids learning to make bombs itself isn't an issue, kids making bombs to hurt others is the issue. Hold parents legally accountable for the latter, not the former.
The furthest I'd be willing to go on this is requiring a payment method (which itself requires sufficient age) to be entered before accessing anything "adult oriented," and even then I'm not completely sold. But this way the burden of verifying age is restricted to things consumers already need to trust, and parents would need to give or allow their kid access to a payment method.
I think you misunderstand. I'm not saying I'm in favor of this law.
By state's rights, I'm referring to the way republicans pretend they want the freedom of choice where they are actually just looking for excuses to keep doing what they're doing. In this way, letting parents choose is functionally identical: parents won't choose, so it is equivalent to doing nothing.
There has to be a cultural shift for anything to change.
Kids seeing stuff they shouldn't isn't itself a problem,
If I'm being perfectly honest, I do not give a shit if 9-year-olds can see titties. Like, my other argument against this government overreach is that I don't know what problem it's supposedly solving that can't just be solved with better sex-ed.
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There are fans of Spotify?
I'm just as mystified as you.
The only time I interact with the service is when I'm sent a link to a cool band/song and I wind up on the site. "Oh, this again." I really have zero concept of fandom for something like this.
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Thanks for recommending Navidrome. It looks really interesting.
I was using Spotify, but switched to Spotube. After Spotube was crippled, I was kind of aimless. I really liked having my music available on my cellphone and desktop. It looks like Navidrome will fill the gap perfectly.
You'd mentioned ripping CDs. Would you have some software, you'd recommend (Windows or Linux)? Preferably in FLAC.
I haven't looked at ripping software in a few years, but it was kind of tedious to set up and very manual to get the proper metadata, genres, and cover art. I've got a hundred CDs and that'll take awhile....
I want to leave Windows behind... abcde seems the way to go for Linux.
On Windows I use EAC, it's great but requires a little work to set up. There are a lot of tutorials for it if course.
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I'm returning to car boot sales to buy cubic meters of CDs.
That, and BandCamp.All my CD's got ripped (and re-ripped) to mp3 in increasing bitrates as storage increased. Bandcamp is where almost all my musicians release anyway, and I've got over a thousand albums through them, happy in the knowledge I support the artists in a fairly direct way.
Sure, I've still got an Apple Music sub (which sucks at times because licensing means a compilation gets split into several albums when whatever deal happens in the background expires). But I'll easily find new music, grab it and give it a go, and if I like it enough I'll dig them out on bandcamp. At some point I'm gonna quit that platform.
Planning to get a modern mp3 player to go offline with my music at some point. Or maybe rebuild the old iPod and put Rockbox on it and hook it up to my linux desktop.
