Whataboutism isn’t useful. Nobody is living the perfect life. Every improvement we can make towards a more sustainable way of living is good. Everyone needs to start somewhere and even if they never move to make more changes at least they made the one.

Do you have a citation handy for that?

Do you know what I mean by "scaling"? Because going by your reply, you don't.

What is it with vegans and comparing literally everything to veganism? I was in another thread and it was compared to genocide, rape, and climate change all in the same thread. Insanity

Death Industry sounds like it would be an awesome band name.

So, I can't complain about any part of the remaining 85% if I'm not vegan? That's so fucking stupid. Do you not complain about microplastics because you're guilty of using devices with plastic in them to type your message?

So, I can't complain about any part of the remaining 85% if I'm not vegan? That's so fucking stupid. Do you not complain about microplastics because you're guilty of using devices with plastic in them to type your message?

Not really. It shows that he used scale in the appropriate manner.

I think you're just grasping at straws by saying what sounds nice in your head instead of engaging in a legitimate argument.

I said "scaling" not "scale". "Scaling" refers to how output and expenses of the enterprise behaves as it becomes bigger or smaller. Threeduck seems to think it means "big". And then immediately refers the holocaust for some reason.

Though, the term is broad, hence why I asked them about how they interpret the term.

Yes, I'm a piece of shit for using a phone made by a capitalist corporation and contributes to harming the planet. I don't deny that I live in a horrible society that forces me to be a bad human just to survive.

I also don't call people stupid for telling me my device is bad for the environment. I still eat meat, I'm not a vegan, but I understand and completely agree that it's terrible for the environment. By recognizing it, I can be conscious of my consumption and reduce it.

I also use LLMs conservatively, I use them where they add value and I don't use them frivolously to generate shitty AI slop.

I'm conscious of its dangers and that drives my consumption of it.

But I don't pick and choose. I don't eat animal products three meals a day and bitch about someone using an LLM to edit a file instead of manually working on it for five hours.

Just be consistent is the message they were communicating, not that you shouldn't complain about 85%.

You can, but you also open yourself up to criticism of your hypocrisy.

Right now, your cognitive dissonance is flaring up because you have to simultaneously criticize someone for contributing to a problem while contributing to it yourself.

I'm not even vegan, but I absolutely love watching meat-eaters squirm because it reinforces my notion that the average person is a complete idiot and should not be taken seriously.

I only use it if I’m stuck even if the AI code is wrong it often pushes me in the right direction to find the correct solution for my problem. Like pair programming but a bit shitty.

The best way to use these LLMs with coding is to never use the generated code directly and atomize your problem into smaller questions you ask to the LLM.

Yeah, you're the one who's confused about the definition.

Bingo. If you routinely use LLM's/AI you've recently seen it first hand. ALL of them have become noticeably worse over the past few months. Even if simply using it as a basic tool, it's worse. Claude for all the praise it receives has also gotten worse. I've noticed it starting to forget context or constantly contradicting itself. even Claude Code.

The release of GPT5 is proof in the pudding that a wall has been hit and the bubble is bursting. There's nothing left to train on and all the LLM's have been consuming each others waste as a result. I've talked about it on here several times already due to my work but companies are also seeing this. They're scrambling to undo the fuck up of using AI to build their stuff, None of what they used it to build scales. None of it. And you go on Linkedin and see all the techbros desperately trying to hype the mounds of shit that remain.

I don't know what's next for AI but this current generation of it is dying. It didn't work.

So duck programming right?

Or you could build the centers in colder climate areas. Here in Finland it's common (maybe even mandatory, I'm not sure) for new datacenters to pull the heat from their systems and use that for district heating. No wasted water and at least you get something useful out of LLMs. Obviously using them as a massive electric boiler is pretty inefficient but energy for heating is needed anyways so at least we can stay warm and get 90s action series fanfic on top of that.

Get an original joke.

Bingo. If you routinely use LLM's/AI you've recently seen it first hand. ALL of them have become noticeably worse over the past few months. Even if simply using it as a basic tool, it's worse. Claude for all the praise it receives has also gotten worse. I've noticed it starting to forget context or constantly contradicting itself. even Claude Code.

The release of GPT5 is proof in the pudding that a wall has been hit and the bubble is bursting. There's nothing left to train on and all the LLM's have been consuming each others waste as a result. I've talked about it on here several times already due to my work but companies are also seeing this. They're scrambling to undo the fuck up of using AI to build their stuff, None of what they used it to build scales. None of it. And you go on Linkedin and see all the techbros desperately trying to hype the mounds of shit that remain.

I don't know what's next for AI but this current generation of it is dying. It didn't work.

Wait so the biggest improvement came when there was a massive decline in demand?