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You're not alone: This email from Google's Gemini team is concerning

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  • Gemini depends on the Google app, disable it, and it dies.

    Have you noticed how the Google app, the one that supposedly just does search and list news articles, has like 400 MB? Over time it accumulated 2GB cache... how?

    I recently tried using the Google Translate image translator. Totally locked up now, requiring Play Store and Google App. Still didn't work, but is was seriously just "if you don't give us everything now, we won't do basic shit for you."

  • No, Google is using their influence and our reliance to steer society. Please don't forget how passive language enables the worst abusers.

    You're right, I'm an abuse enabler because I made an observation about companies being shitty. Very well said.

  • Linux has become good enough to replace desktop operating systems.

    Now, we are back at square one. I’ll be the first to inaccurately declare, “This will be the year of the Linux phone.”

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  • I remember. But don't quote me on that. Actually, I guess no one can quote me on it, it was in a discussion on Google Wave, anyway.

    Google Wave was actually pretty awesome. Google just had no idea what to do with it and it was too heavy for phones of the time.

  • Google’s Gemini team is apparently sending out emails about an upcoming change to how Gemini interacts with apps on Android devices. The email informs users that, come July 7, 2025, Gemini will be able to “help you use Phone, Messages, WhatsApp, and Utilities on your phone, whether your Gemini Apps Activity is on or off.” Naturally, this has raised some privacy concerns among those who’ve received the email and those using the AI assistant on their Android devices.

    I've been Android and Windows user for pretty much all of my life. Vehemently anti Apple because of the company and I've thought the products are trash. I've been 100% Linux for over a year and a half, and if this Gemini stuff comes through, I will not have an android phone either. I have a Pixel and my old still functional Pixel. I need to try installing grapheneOS or something else and trial it to see if it will work for me.

    If Linux isn't an option for me in the future for whatever reason, I will be purchasing a Mac. I will never have a Windows machine for the rest of my life if I have any say in the matter, work being the obvious and uncontrollable exception. The fact that I'm even entertaining the idea of owning an iPhone or a Mac is really telling about how far Android and Windows and enshitified.

  • Google’s Gemini team is apparently sending out emails about an upcoming change to how Gemini interacts with apps on Android devices. The email informs users that, come July 7, 2025, Gemini will be able to “help you use Phone, Messages, WhatsApp, and Utilities on your phone, whether your Gemini Apps Activity is on or off.” Naturally, this has raised some privacy concerns among those who’ve received the email and those using the AI assistant on their Android devices.

    Won't be using any of those apps.

  • Sadly, SailfishOS is region locked. Being from North America, I can't purchase their phones, or use the trial/emulation option, which really sucks because I like a lot of what I'm seeing there.

    Us here in NA finally get to see what its like on the other side of the region locking coin haha.

  • Consumer activism, by itself, has rarely, if ever, accomplished anything.

    The best recent examble was Tesla, but that wasn't a mere non-buying action. Tesla action involved vandalism and a massive word of mouth campaign.

    Basically if we want to fight for a future we believe in, we must stop playing patty cakes and fight like it's a life and death struggle.

    Symbolic resistance is not enough.

    Don't get me wrong, I still avoid buying Nestle products, and have for years, but I know this is not the way to real change.

    I want us to stop suggesting consumer activism as a valid pathway to change.

    Consumer activism kills businesses and products regularly. We call it 'trends'.

    But manufacturing a boycott for long enough to work is almost certainly going to fail. But like you say, it has a role to play, just not by itself. It must be an action used with precision as part of a larger strategy. We have plenty of tools, but nobody puts them together. It's always an isolated boycott that flairs up and inevitably fades away. The company just waits it out. We also can't boycott necessities, and that's where they really get us. Consumer activism doesn't work all in those cases.

  • Can you tell me about Graphene?

    I got bank and government ID apps (manditory. Denmark uses MitID for all government related things), but they require things like locked bootloaders and Google security features.

    Would those apps be functional on GrapheneOS?

    how do they make it mandatory? what happens if you don't have a smartphone?

    is it strictly mandatory, or is the alternative intentionally very inconvenient?

    I'm asking because it is very weird to me. but also, in my country also in the EU, there's this misunderstanding that it is mandatory, while actually it can be replaced with any 2FA code generator app. and then it has a bunch of administrative features in one place for convenience

  • Dammit don't make me switch to apple phones, I hate apple. I hate Google too but FFS all you need to do is stay out of my way and the one thing you continuously do is stand in my way...

    GTFO of my way! Piss off with that AI crap that nobody asked for

    Apple is pushing AI even for their Mac lineup. Apple is a US company and had to be forced to allow Sideloading in select regions. Jumping to another US company seems like a lateral move.

    Moving to dumb phones or custom ROMs is the best alternative available.

  • Saying "You're not alone" is supposed to be a wholesome thing to show someone that you care. Instead, it's AI companies squeezing as much data out of customers and injecting as much AI into everything they can.

    Society really took a wrong turn didn't it?

    Society really took a wrong turn didn’t it?

    Society has been circling the drain since the invention of agriculture...

  • I've been Android and Windows user for pretty much all of my life. Vehemently anti Apple because of the company and I've thought the products are trash. I've been 100% Linux for over a year and a half, and if this Gemini stuff comes through, I will not have an android phone either. I have a Pixel and my old still functional Pixel. I need to try installing grapheneOS or something else and trial it to see if it will work for me.

    If Linux isn't an option for me in the future for whatever reason, I will be purchasing a Mac. I will never have a Windows machine for the rest of my life if I have any say in the matter, work being the obvious and uncontrollable exception. The fact that I'm even entertaining the idea of owning an iPhone or a Mac is really telling about how far Android and Windows and enshitified.

    The user experience of GrapheneOS is basically the same as vanilla Android, except that you have more control (you can uninstall google apps, for example), but at the cost of a small minority of apps (banking ones, for example) not working (out of the box, sometimes at all). My banking app works, and a quick google search will tell you if yours does too. If your old pixel is not too old (4 is no longer supported, 8 definitely is, not sure abt in between), you should give it a go. I think you'll see it's not as big of a step as you maybe currently imagine.

  • I've been Android and Windows user for pretty much all of my life. Vehemently anti Apple because of the company and I've thought the products are trash. I've been 100% Linux for over a year and a half, and if this Gemini stuff comes through, I will not have an android phone either. I have a Pixel and my old still functional Pixel. I need to try installing grapheneOS or something else and trial it to see if it will work for me.

    If Linux isn't an option for me in the future for whatever reason, I will be purchasing a Mac. I will never have a Windows machine for the rest of my life if I have any say in the matter, work being the obvious and uncontrollable exception. The fact that I'm even entertaining the idea of owning an iPhone or a Mac is really telling about how far Android and Windows and enshitified.

    Gemini can be disabled. Uninstall/disable the Gemini app if your phone has it then go to Settings > Apps > Default apps > digital assistant > Google > none.

  • You're right, I'm an abuse enabler because I made an observation about companies being shitty. Very well said.

    They didn't say you were an enabler. They said that those words are enabling. Just think about the way you phrase things so as to not hide (intentionally or otherwise) guilt.

  • My wife has been trying to get me to switch to Apple since Ive had a Droid X years ago. I've been on android since. It is time to switch. Probably a lateral move, but Google has gone to absolute shit.

    You can turn it off by going to Settings > apps > default apps > digital assistant > Google > none.

    You should disable the Google app entirely while you're at it.

  • I've been Android and Windows user for pretty much all of my life. Vehemently anti Apple because of the company and I've thought the products are trash. I've been 100% Linux for over a year and a half, and if this Gemini stuff comes through, I will not have an android phone either. I have a Pixel and my old still functional Pixel. I need to try installing grapheneOS or something else and trial it to see if it will work for me.

    If Linux isn't an option for me in the future for whatever reason, I will be purchasing a Mac. I will never have a Windows machine for the rest of my life if I have any say in the matter, work being the obvious and uncontrollable exception. The fact that I'm even entertaining the idea of owning an iPhone or a Mac is really telling about how far Android and Windows and enshitified.

    Not liking Apple for ethical reasons is one thing, but thinking they don’t make good products surprises me. I think the current generation of MacBooks are some of the best computers ever sold.

  • Not liking Apple for ethical reasons is one thing, but thinking they don’t make good products surprises me. I think the current generation of MacBooks are some of the best computers ever sold.

    Last year's tech for next year's prices.

  • how do they make it mandatory? what happens if you don't have a smartphone?

    is it strictly mandatory, or is the alternative intentionally very inconvenient?

    I'm asking because it is very weird to me. but also, in my country also in the EU, there's this misunderstanding that it is mandatory, while actually it can be replaced with any 2FA code generator app. and then it has a bunch of administrative features in one place for convenience

    MitID is hard-required to sign into anything government or personal information required. Previously people would be handed a key-card (a white, fold-out card with a bunch of numbers on it. The numbers were one-time use, so the card would eventually run out, requiring a replacement after a few months).

    These key-cards have been completely phased out. Now there is the MitID app or a key-device that is almost impossible to get (you'll basically have to prove that you don't have/can't use a smart phone).

    The MitID app has almost no features at all. It's specifically used for authentication. You log into the gooberment website or bank website, then a encrypted, constantly changing QR code pops up. You open the MitID app on your phone, scan the QR code, and then you gain access.

    This is all run through the private security company the Danish government has hired, called "NETS".

  • I've been Android and Windows user for pretty much all of my life. Vehemently anti Apple because of the company and I've thought the products are trash. I've been 100% Linux for over a year and a half, and if this Gemini stuff comes through, I will not have an android phone either. I have a Pixel and my old still functional Pixel. I need to try installing grapheneOS or something else and trial it to see if it will work for me.

    If Linux isn't an option for me in the future for whatever reason, I will be purchasing a Mac. I will never have a Windows machine for the rest of my life if I have any say in the matter, work being the obvious and uncontrollable exception. The fact that I'm even entertaining the idea of owning an iPhone or a Mac is really telling about how far Android and Windows and enshitified.

    Graphene OS is very nice and switching was really easy. Their instrucrions are great. Furthermore, I had a tablet I had an old device I switched to test before I did anything to my phone. I recently needed to switch it back, and the process was similarly just as easy.

  • Gemini can be disabled. Uninstall/disable the Gemini app if your phone has it then go to Settings > Apps > Default apps > digital assistant > Google > none.

    ...for now

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  • We're Not Innovating, We’re Just Forgetting Slower

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    The author’s take is detached from reality, filled with hypocrisy and gatekeeping. "Opinionated" is another term - for friendliness and neutrality. Complaining about reality means a degree of detachment from it by intention. When was the last time, Mr author, you had to replace a failed DIMM in your modern computer? When was the last time, Mr commenter, you had to make your own furniture because it's harder to find a thing of the right dimensions to buy? But when that was more common, it was also easier to get the materials and the tools, because ordering things over the Internet and getting them delivered the next day was less common. In terms of managing my home I feel that 00s were nicer than now. Were the centralized "silk road" of today with TSMC kicked out (a nuke, suppose, or a political change), would you prefer less efficient yet more distributed production of electronics? That would have less allowance for various things hidden from users, that happen in modern RAM. Possibly much less. If there was no technological or production cost improvement, we’d just use the old version. I think their point was that there's no architectural innovation in some things. Yes, there is a regular shift in computing philosophy, but this is driving by new technologies and usually computing performance descending to be accessibly at commodity pricing. The Raspberry Pi wasn’t a revolutionary fast computer, but it changed the world because it was enough computing power and it was dirt cheap. Maybe those shifts are in market philosophies in tech. I agree, there is something appealing about it to you and me, but most people don’t care…and thats okay! To them its a tool to get something done. They are not in love with the tool, nor do they need to be. There's a screwdriver. I can imagine there's a fitting basic amount of attention a piece of knowledge gets. I can imagine some person not knowing how to use a screwdriver (substitute with something better) is below that. And some are far above that, maybe. I think the majority of humans is below the level of knowledge computers in our reality require. That's not the level you or the author possess. That's about the level I possessed in my childhood, nothing impressive. Mr. author, no one is stopping you from using your TI-99 today, but in fact you didn’t use it to write your article either. Why is that? Because the TI-99 is a tiny fraction of the function and complexity of a modern computer. Creating something close to a modern computer from discrete components with “part numbers you can look up” would be massively expensive, incredibly slow, and comparatively consume massive amounts of electricity vs today’s modern computers. It would seem we are getting a better deal from the same amount of energy spent with modern computers then. Does this seem right to you? It's philosophy and not logic, but I think you know that for getting something you pay something. There's no energy out of nowhere. Discrete components may not make sense. But maybe the insane efficiency we have is paid for with our future. It's made possible by centralization of economy and society and geopolitics, which wasn't needed to make TI-99. Do you think a surgeon understands how a CCD electronic camera works that is attached to their laparoscope? Is the surgeon un-educated that they aren’t fluent in circuit theory that allows the camera to display the guts of the patient they’re operating on? A surgeon has another specialist nearby, and that specialist doesn't just know these things, but also a lot of other knowledge necessary for them and the surgeon to unambiguously communicate, avoiding fatal mistakes. A bit more expense is spent here than just throwing a device at a surgeon not understanding how it works. A fair bit. Such gatekeeping! So unless you know the actual engineering principles behind a device you’re using, you shouldn’t be allowed to use it? Why not: Such respect! In truth, why wouldn't we trust students to make good use of understanding of their tools and the universe around them, since every human's corpus of knowledge is unique and wonderful, and not intentionally limit them. Innovation isn’t just creating new features or functionality. In fact, most I’d argue is taking existing features or functions and delivering them for substantially less cost/effort. Is change of policy innovation? In our world I see a lot of that. Driven by social and commercial and political interests naturally. As I’m reading this article, I am thinking about a farmer watching Mr. author eat a sandwich made with bread. A basic touch on your thoughts further is supposed to be part of school program in many countries. Perhaps, but these simple solutions also can frequently only offer simple functionality. Additionally, “the best engineering solutions” are often some of the most expensive. You don’t always need the best, and if best is the only option, then that may mean going without, which is worst than a mediocre solution and what we frequently had in the past. Does more complex functionality justify this? Who decides what we need? Who decides what is better and what is worse? This comes to policy decisions again. Authority. I think modern authority is misplaced, and were it not, we'd have an environment more similar to what the author wants. The reason your TI-99 and my c64 don’t require constant updates is because they were born before the concept of cybersecurity existed. If you’re going to have internet connected devices they its a near requirement to receive updates for security. Not all updates are for security. And an insecure device still can work years after years. If you don’t want internet connected devices, you can get those too, but they may be extremely expensive, so pony up the cash and put your money where your mouth is. Willpower is a tremendous limitation which people usually ignore. It's very hard to do this when everyone around doesn't. It would be very easy if you were choosing for yourself without network effects and interoperability requirements. So your argument for me doesn't work in your favor, when looking closely. (Similar to "if you disagree with this law, you can explain it at the police station".) Don’t think even a DEC PDP 11 mainframe sold in the same era was entirely known by a handful of people, and even that is a tiny fraction of functionality of today’s cheap commodity PCs. There's a graphical 2d space shooter game for PDP-11. Just saying. Also on its architecture some Soviet clones were made, in the form factor of PCs. With networking capabilities, they were used as command machines for other kinds of simpler PCs, or for production lines, and could be used as file shares, IIRC. I don't remember what that was called, but the absolutely weirdest part was seeing in comments people remembering using that in university computer labs and even in school computer labs, so that actually existed in the USSR. Kinda expensive though, even without Soviet inefficiency. It was made as a consumer electronics product with the least cost they thought they could get away with and have it still sell. Yes, which leads to different requirements today. This doesn't stop the discussion. That leads it to the question what changed. We are not obligated to take the perpetual centralization of economies and societies like some divine judgement. We don’t need most of these consumer electronics to last. Who's we? Are you deciding what will Intel RnD focus on, or what will Microsoft change in their OS and applications, or what will Apple produce? Authority, again. If it still works, why isn’t he using one? Could it be he wants the new features and functionality like the rest of us? Yes. It still works for offline purposes. It doesn't work where the modern web is not operable with it. This in my opinion reinforces their idea, not yours. These are my replies. I'll add my own principal opinion - a civilization can be as tall as a human forming it. Abstractions leak, and our world is continuous, so all abstractions leak. To know which do and don't for the particular purpose, you need to know principles. You can use abstractions without looking inside them to build a system inside an architecture, but you can't build an architecture and pick real world solutions for those abstractions without understanding those real wold solutions. Also horizontal connections between abstractions are much more tolerant to leaks than vertical ones. And there's no moral law forbidding us to look above our current environment to understand in which directions it may change.
  • Are a few people ruining the internet for the rest of us?

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    I think it's about being content with what you have. Not always wanting more and bigger and better. I have a comfortable salary, nothing too much, loads of people earn way more, but i can pay my mortgage and all other costs, don't have to worry about losing my job. And still have enough money left to spend on nice things. I don't have to save up loads of money for medical bills or other unfortunate events. I can just easily live my life. That having said I'm still fed up with the daily grind, so I'm selling the house now to retire early somewhere in Spain or Italy, hopefully going off grid somewhere in the mountains enjoying peace and quiet and nature, embracing my inner hermit.
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    Nobody's complaining about the simple.wikipedia part, but you already know that.
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    Hear me out, Eliza. It'll be equally useless and for orders of magnitude less cost. And no one will mistakenly or fraudulently call it AI.
  • Unlock Your Computer With a Molecular Password

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    One downside of the method is that each molecular message can only be read once, since decoding the polymers involves degrading them. New DRM just dropped. Imagine pouring rented movies into your TV like laundry detergent.