Our Channel Could Be Deleted - Gamers Nexus
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I don't think it's clickbait at all. He's in real danger of being silenced. With this latest project he reached into a massive wasp nest for sure, but I admire his efforts to speak up in cases like this.
And I haven't found any bias in his content in general. He's pretty transparent about his methodologies.
He has a huge bias against Macs. I suspect you won’t be receptive to that idea.
There’s a general sense of consoles and other devices being beneath the channel. Little comments often surface during news segments that touch on them. It’s not that they don’t acknowledge them.
And with how shitty Microsoft is, you’d think they would be more even handed about the whole thing.
But this is filtered though my sensitive ears because I came up with Mac gaming and console gaming, and I’m sensitive to when people are dismissive of other options. The same thing use to happen to Linux until the Steam Deck and associated software support from valve forced people out of treating all Linux gaming as an afterthought.
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without context? context is in the video. or do you want titles that span 4 lines with 3 sentences?
Why is it a big deal? Don’t you agree with Linus that clickbait is just part of the game, and we should accept the sensational thumbnails and titles? Hate the game, not the player and all that?
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Can someone explain me why creators cant do both? Reupload a mirror on peertube.
Its in their interest to have a solid backup when youtube inevitably dies.
That's definitely an option. It would be a good idea for him to do that, I think. But my main point is that losing YouTube would be devastating for GN regardless of whether or not they're on peertube, and moving entirely to peertube isn't really feasible for them
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Can someone explain me why creators cant do both? Reupload a mirror on peertube.
Its in their interest to have a solid backup when youtube inevitably dies.
this is speculation, but it's possible that youtube don't like it when large mainstream creators have backup platforms and will start cracking down.
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Lemmy simps really hard for gamers nexus, even though they're just a drama channel at this point.
Their bread and butter is hardware reviews and weekly news. No, they're not a drama channel. Just because that's the only time you, personally, hear about them doesn't mean the rest of us work that way.
Telling Linus to fuck off is a good idea regardless of views.
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So I am completely ignorant about this, but... Would just hosting torrents to their own content work? I know the revenue might not be the same, but, would it be possible to keep it going around?
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So I am completely ignorant about this, but... Would just hosting torrents to their own content work? I know the revenue might not be the same, but, would it be possible to keep it going around?
Yeh, absolutely.
The DMCA takedown works because music/film industry execs have previously gone after YouTube for not responding to legitimate copyright infringements.
So YouTube now favours the person claiming the strike and makes it very difficult for the defendant to exonerate themselves.Changing how they publish will sidestep YouTube overplaying.
But YouTube has revenue split with content creators, and has an absolutely massive audience with discovery algorithms and community stuff. Moving away from that platform would be an insane move -
So I am completely ignorant about this, but... Would just hosting torrents to their own content work? I know the revenue might not be the same, but, would it be possible to keep it going around?
Nobody is gonna watch a torrent tuber, the audience would get cut to 1/100th if even that.
Too many people rely on the aggregates and the algorithms.
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Their bread and butter is hardware reviews and weekly news. No, they're not a drama channel. Just because that's the only time you, personally, hear about them doesn't mean the rest of us work that way.
Telling Linus to fuck off is a good idea regardless of views.
Simp spotted. Tech drama Jesus isn't gonna like you more for defending him, he doesn't even care that you exist.
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Simp spotted. Tech drama Jesus isn't gonna like you more for defending him, he doesn't even care that you exist.
I don't have an interest in being liked by Steve. I do have an interest in journalism outlets who are willing to say that a $4T market cap company is full of shit.
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there is revenue stream. liberapay is integrated, get your viewers to subscribe through there. they can donate any amount, literally.
then its also common that content creators cooperate with companies, mostly tech companies, to advertise their products. that can still be done on peertube. what they can't anymore is to show generic ads for everyone every few minutes.
Oh I did not know this, thanks for the correction. And you're right about sponsors. I'd be curious to hear the thoughts of a more income-minded content creator on whether this model is viable and what it would take to make it work.
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Yeh, absolutely.
The DMCA takedown works because music/film industry execs have previously gone after YouTube for not responding to legitimate copyright infringements.
So YouTube now favours the person claiming the strike and makes it very difficult for the defendant to exonerate themselves.Changing how they publish will sidestep YouTube overplaying.
But YouTube has revenue split with content creators, and has an absolutely massive audience with discovery algorithms and community stuff. Moving away from that platform would be an insane move -
Bloomberg has 10 days to file for lawsuit against Gamers Nexus. If they do, the take down stands, and it's a strike until Gamers Nexus may win the case. Which will be expensive. 3 strikes and YouTube closes the channel with near zero option for appeal.
Gamers Nexus cannot manage if a big company like Bloomberg goes all in. They can easily bankrupt a small channel like Gamers Nexus with frivolous lawsuits. And if you are bankrupt, you can't defend yourself.
The US judicial system is heavily tilted towards those that have more money.
"small."
Make no mistake. Gamers Nexus is a multi million dollar company.
Sure, Bloomberg is much, much bigger. But while gamers Nexus is the underdog, it's not the toothless underdog. That little fucker will bite in bloomberg's ankles before it dies and tbf: it looks like it's already yapping and took it's first bite.
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Sounds like YouTubers should go after YouTube when this happens. Maybe a class action lawsuit for lost revenue?
There is no good answer to it.
It is ridiculous that a channel which uploads thousands of authentic original content can lose all algorithm momentum from a frivolous DMCA strike removing their video for 10 days.
It basically guarantees a video gets killed. Even if the video gets reinstated after an appeal.This particular video will massively bounce back. People are angry at Nvidia, people are angry with YouTube and with YouTubes DMCA process, and now people are angry at Bloomberg.
And Gamers Nexus isn't gonna let this drop, and GN has earned its communities trust (and I think trust in general) that there will be flocks of people ensuring the video doesn't die.But if this was a smaller channel releasing a massive expose like this, it would probably just drop out off the public's radar before it gets established
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If you are running a business then you should either toe the line with your platform provider or make sure you have alternatives in place to move away from them if you value full creative control.
These people don't understand what a class war looks like...
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So I am completely ignorant about this, but... Would just hosting torrents to their own content work? I know the revenue might not be the same, but, would it be possible to keep it going around?
So, there are options.
You have three challenges:
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You need to be discoverable
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you need to be accessible
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you need to monetize
If you just make videos and torrent them, you're not monetized, you're not discoverable and you're not really very accessable to the average person.
Youtube is this nifty one-stop-shop that provides all three to a certain point.
Peertube gives you some discoverability and lots of accessibility, but nothing for monetization.
Odysee gives you a tiny bit of discoverability and lots of accessibility, but almost nothing for monetization.
Floatplane (assuming GN wasn't feuding with LMG) gives you reasonable monetization and accessibility but almost nothing in discoverability.
edit: cut myself short
I'd like to see some form of partially federated system that works with peertube. I think the platform could scale and we could give youtube a run for their money.
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Sounds like YouTubers should go after YouTube when this happens. Maybe a class action lawsuit for lost revenue?
Messy. Youtube could just refuse to serve his videos because they decide they don't want to
They have more lawyers than God, I can't help but think the contract they all have with Google favors Google to the extreme.
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Can someone explain me why creators cant do both? Reupload a mirror on peertube.
Its in their interest to have a solid backup when youtube inevitably dies.
It'd be dangerous to his revenue stream.
If he reduces views on YT, the algo will recommend him less. His internal sponsors won't pay more for the non YT content so he'll just be gutting his own traffic if it takes off. Assuming he has disks around with all his finished content on it, he could stand it up later if he wanted, but it's not like Peertube can host an unlimited amount of video for free. Someone is paying for those disks and for the transfer of those bits.
Ideally, he'd stand up his own PT and we'd share in watching his stuff and reduce costs Peer style. But he's still going to be out a serious payment stream and the PT network can't just perpetually bare the cost of his storage.
It's like if LMG wanted to host their back catalog, we'd need peer tube hosts with a PB of storage sitting around ready to take his catalog.
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Nah. He’d be better off on floatplane. I wonder why he isn’t…
LOL, the world may never know.
I'm still not sure which side of that whole thing i'm on. I know he's less annoying than Linus. But even Billit labs seems to have less hate for LMG than he does
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"small."
Make no mistake. Gamers Nexus is a multi million dollar company.
Sure, Bloomberg is much, much bigger. But while gamers Nexus is the underdog, it's not the toothless underdog. That little fucker will bite in bloomberg's ankles before it dies and tbf: it looks like it's already yapping and took it's first bite.
That is true, but yes Gamers Nexus is (relatively) small, and a million dollars can be gone in no time, if a multi billion dollar company decides you need to be gone.
1 million dollars is far from enough to run just a single somewhat high profile copyright lawsuit.This case is simple, so they will probably manage that pretty easily, there is basically no way Bloomberg can win. It's just a typical harassment tactic that will work against by far the most smaller outlets. But Steve is smart, he knows bullshit when he sees it, and he is not easily scared.
But if Bloomberg gets pissed enough, Gamers Nexus could soon be toast. Just like Gamers Nexus has friends more powerful than themselves, so does Bloomberg.
And 3 frivolous take down notices can appear from various sources in no time. And to YouTube Gamers Nexus is definitely small fry.