AI company files for bankruptcy after being exposed as 700 Indian engineers - Dexerto
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Crazy that 700 professionals in india is cheaper than a compute/data centre.
700 professionals in India probably make more coherent software than AI.
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Peoole aren’t appreciating just how bad these things are because they’re misinterpreting it. The goal of what they are doing here and with Amazon was never to just fake the technology right. The goal was to fake that the technology existed by using humans to do an automated thing and then to leverage that into making it actually automated.
But essentially what that means is theyre inventing technology that hasn’t been invented yet and selling it to you and the reason for doing so is to replace you with technology before it can even technically happen.
It’s essentially like someone building a new automated factory and telling workers at their other locations that they can’t be hired there since it’s automated but then someone goes inside and finds out they’re just using child laborers until the robots are ready and also robots haven’t been invented yet.
They’re using blood to grease wheels that don’t even exist to turn yet.
Feels like it should be illegal to mislead people like that.
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A lot of companies have been doing this for years. AWS literally sells this as a service: https://www.mturk.com/
Amazon SageMaker Ground Truth
Who names this shit? I want to have a serious talk with their mother.
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Someday, that's what we'll be sold as "The Singularity". Some company like Apple or Google will offer us ascendance into the cloud, but we'll actually just become digital slave labor.
Plot twist, the future envisioned in the matrix basically does come to pass, except it's not machines turning humans into power, it's the ultra rich turning humans into processing power.
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What’s next? Am I going to find out my AI girlfriend is actually a real woman? Smh my head, can’t trust anything these days
Shit in My Hands?
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Amazon SageMaker Ground Truth
Who names this shit? I want to have a serious talk with their mother.
Amazon web services are incomprehensible. The names aren't good either
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What are you talking about?
It was never AI. It was always cheap remote people working in foreign countries. But you would take that, and sell it as AI like they did?
Looked it up and according to their claims (which we don’t have much other info on) they said that 70% needed manual review. And I’m saying AI here but really that’s the buzzword, there was a whole engineered system behind this that was automated to some degree. So yeah it wasn’t AI but it also wasn’t just people either.
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What’s next? Am I going to find out my AI girlfriend is actually a real woman? Smh my head, can’t trust anything these days
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Next do "self driving cars"
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Goodbye! Onto the next one
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Amazon web services are incomprehensible. The names aren't good either
Yeah the whole AWS ecosystem has a super shitty naming. Everybody knows S3, but what kind of name is that? All the other services are no better
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AI stands for "actually indians"?
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700 professionals in India probably make more coherent software than AI.
100%, but i dont think that will stay true for too long.
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AI stands for "actually indians"?
Always Infosys
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100%, but i dont think that will stay true for too long.
In the meantime. This is a valid business model.
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Amazon SageMaker Ground Truth
Who names this shit? I want to have a serious talk with their mother.
OracleMaker was too problematic.
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Yeah the whole AWS ecosystem has a super shitty naming. Everybody knows S3, but what kind of name is that? All the other services are no better
Simple Storage Service
E: I agree that their names are shit though. But S3 makes sense (once you know what it means). Just like
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Isn't this exactly what was exposed at the Amazon "Just Walk Out" stores? Turns out all the cameras and sensors weren't good enough, so they paid thousands of people in India to watch videos and correct checkouts. They basically just outsourced the position of cashier, while pretending it was all done automatically!
Amazon Ditches 'Just Walk Out' Checkouts at Its Grocery Stores
Amazon Fresh is moving away from a feature of its grocery stores where customers could skip checkout altogether.
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I built some of the components that went in to the test locations. Amazon had absurdly tight tolerances for the parts they were buying. They effectively wanted a shelf that was also a scale, and the tolerances they demanded weren't really necessary. So it was an insane expense but they paid it and wouldn't hear otherwise.
My company also made most of the lockers they're using in places like Whole Foods, and Amazon insisted on controlling the entire design process themselves. They sent us prints, we made parts. They made it very clear that that was the relationship they wanted, so we complied. No test runs, THAT would be too expensive. Let's just make ten thousand parts and put them together.
I would like to be very clear that in an industrial setting, this is unusual. You need something specific, you call a company that makes things like it and see if they can make what you need. You have a conversation about what you need it for and how many you want. The relationship is personal, you get to know the people around the region that you need stuff from.
Amazon swooping in with a heavy purse and a list of demands is weird, when someone kicks in your door with a stack of prints and enough money to keep the entire plant in overtime all year, it's hard to say no to that.
So the first batch of prints they send is wrong. Parts do not line up right and the doors don't even fit. We didn't discover this until 70% of the components had already been painted.
Second batch they assure us addresses the problem, we need to start over.
My friends, it did not address the problem. Half the changes they needed to make they didn't. The doors still did not fit.
3rd try, we lied and said we needed some extra time because a different client had elbowed in with a large order while they were redesigning. We had an intern recreate every print in CAD and test fit it, we ran a single batch of test pieces to assemble one row of lockers and as we were doing that they sent a revision.
They finally got their lockers, and asked for basically book dividers but insisted again on insanely tight tolerances.
After the dividers went out we stopped taking their calls.
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Shit in My Hands?
Is there any other way?
