GitHub is no longer independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation
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I'm running a self hosted Gitlab instance right now but thinking of switching to Forgejo. Anyone tried both and have thoughts on each?
I use GitLab at work and Forgejo at home. GitLab is huge, Forgejo is lighter. GitLab Runner is very nice, Woodpecker was a pain to setup but it now does everything I need. GitLab supports subgroups, Forgejo does not. Forgejo is FOSS with a non-profit behind it, GitLab Inc. is for-profit.
At the end, I like to work with both. GitLab has lots of features, but for my own stuff Forgejo serves me very well and I like the openness of it.
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Codeberg has a lot of restrictions regarding private repositories and... complicated verbiage regarding what licenses they want for public repositories.
For public repositories... do you think that MS et al can't already scrape all of that?
I am all for telling MS to go fuck themselves. But it is important people actually understand what they are and aren't getting in terms of privacy and the like. It is like how people still sometimes pretend that the completely open site where just about anyone can run an instance has LESS ai scraping than a reddit.
The key point about codeberg as I understand it is it’s meant for foss projects. It’s not really much more complex than that. Want to host non-free software, or want to use it for your company’s private code repository? They don’t want that on their servers, so either find an alternative or self-host forgejo, which is the same code (derived from gitea) that powers codeberg itself.
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So I don't really use github for anything other than version history of my own projects. I have a Raspberry Pi server, should I be hosting git on that? Can VSCode GUI integrate with it as seamlessly as it does github?
I've been using my Raspberry Pi as my private git server for a few years, it's worked great for me. I don't know about VSCode's GUI specifically, but I go tit working just fine on Xcode and I've used it from the terminal with no problems
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I use GitLab at work and Forgejo at home. GitLab is huge, Forgejo is lighter. GitLab Runner is very nice, Woodpecker was a pain to setup but it now does everything I need. GitLab supports subgroups, Forgejo does not. Forgejo is FOSS with a non-profit behind it, GitLab Inc. is for-profit.
At the end, I like to work with both. GitLab has lots of features, but for my own stuff Forgejo serves me very well and I like the openness of it.
Have you tried the Forgejo runner?
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Self hosting for your own needs is great but you won't get the "drive by" contributions you get from shared platforms. On GitHub, Gitlab, and Codeberg, if I even see as little as a typo in the readme file, I open a pull request. I will not sign up on a hundred different git hosters for stuff like that.
Adding Oauth with GitHub and GitLab is pretty easy
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Don't just move to Codeberg; donate to them too.
i just wanted to drop my personal favorite self-hosted git alternative, Gogs (gogs.io). i have very modest git needs (i just need a place to host code and interact with the
git
client), and i think it fits the bill well.i am not associated with it at all, i just want folks to know that self-hosting your own git service has really never been easier or better; there are so many good options, like a similar project, gitea.
if you are uncomfortable with exposing your home network to the internet, you can use tools like
tailscale funnel
or a reverse proxy server likecaddy
and a $5 VPS from any cloud host of your choosing to obscure your home IP, while still keeping the storage and the brains somewhere closeby.imo, the only way forward for all of us to stay safe is to keep repeating a simple mantra: “let’s go back to making websites.”
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It was dead when MS bought it. Software developers aren't immune to denial.
the mergers & acquisitions leviathan eats yet another beautiful thing, just like it ate my precious linode.
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People not realising (or not caring enough about) the irony that more than 80% of open source projects are hosted in a platform which is a) not open source and b) owned by M$ has always been a mistery to me.
i am old in terms of internet years, and Bill Gates really is living proof that billionaires can essentially destroy the lives of thousands and thousands of people to gather their wealth, and then spend the autumn of their years choosing which countries or causes get a splash-out of the unfathomable excess, like a little kinglet.
i am happy his money helped fix stuff in the world. but that’s called “catching up to what has been expected of you for 60 years.” he does not get a cookie for working out of the Andrew Carnegie playbook.
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Self hosting for your own needs is great but you won't get the "drive by" contributions you get from shared platforms. On GitHub, Gitlab, and Codeberg, if I even see as little as a typo in the readme file, I open a pull request. I will not sign up on a hundred different git hosters for stuff like that.
i am still rooting for patch requests to become more mainstream, it seems like the best possible solution. it just needs some discoverability.
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Huh. Gitlab just said it's too hard with their cut staffing numbers and they're not doing federation.
...git is federated. i'm assuming they're talking about things like issues and runners, but i don't think that's really necessary...
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On GitHub, Gitlab, and Codeberg, if I even see as little as a typo in the readme file, I open a pull request. I will not sign up on a hundred different git hosters for stuff like that.
So we need a free & federated identity provider to sign us up as easy as 123 there.
it's called ssh
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Adding Oauth with GitHub and GitLab is pretty easy
Adding Oauth with GitHub and GitLab is pretty easy
OAuth is just making yet another account with a 3rd party authorization mechanism.
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Self hosting for your own needs is great but you won't get the "drive by" contributions you get from shared platforms. On GitHub, Gitlab, and Codeberg, if I even see as little as a typo in the readme file, I open a pull request. I will not sign up on a hundred different git hosters for stuff like that.
I remember Sourceforge, bitbucket, and a host of other "source" servers. GitHub was nice for a while, but its just another iteration of the same. Heck a lot of the major repos (like Linux for example) only do mirrors to GitHub. The same with codeberg, Gitlab, and other centralized services.
At my last few jobs, we couldn't host on GitHub because of HIPPAA compliance. It was fine. Self hosting git is VERY common in quite a few industries.
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GitHub just got less independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation
Microsoft is bringing GitHub into its AI engineering team. It’s part of an AI shakeup, following the GitHub CEO resigning.
The Verge (www.theverge.com)
Soft serve by charm.sh is also fun to use. If you're a CLI junkie.
GitHub - charmbracelet/soft-serve: The mighty, self-hostable Git server for the command line🍦
The mighty, self-hostable Git server for the command line🍦 - charmbracelet/soft-serve
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So what you're saying is that we need federated git.
The closest I found that works is: https://hackaday.com/2024/03/16/radicle-an-open-source-peer-to-peer-github-alternative/
Radicle
Radicle is a decentralized platform for code collaboration, offering secure and sovereign infrastructure for developers.
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It took a LONG time to get set up on one of my systems. It worked! Unfortunately, I found that just having git by itself was fine for my purposes. And most people are throwing in behind codeberg which is fine by me.
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i just wanted to drop my personal favorite self-hosted git alternative, Gogs (gogs.io). i have very modest git needs (i just need a place to host code and interact with the
git
client), and i think it fits the bill well.i am not associated with it at all, i just want folks to know that self-hosting your own git service has really never been easier or better; there are so many good options, like a similar project, gitea.
if you are uncomfortable with exposing your home network to the internet, you can use tools like
tailscale funnel
or a reverse proxy server likecaddy
and a $5 VPS from any cloud host of your choosing to obscure your home IP, while still keeping the storage and the brains somewhere closeby.imo, the only way forward for all of us to stay safe is to keep repeating a simple mantra: “let’s go back to making websites.”
gog is nice. I like forgejo myself as its dead simple to get set up. But yeah both are really nice.
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Have you tried the Forgejo runner?
I've just installed and configured it, it's pretty easy and straightforward. But there are things that should be smoother, for instance I want to run my pipeline on a custom docker image hosted on the same forgejo oci registry and authentication it's a nightmare
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GitHub just got less independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation
Microsoft is bringing GitHub into its AI engineering team. It’s part of an AI shakeup, following the GitHub CEO resigning.
The Verge (www.theverge.com)
Can't wait for the extra Product Decay
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It does: https://docs.codeberg.org/getting-started/first-repository/ (visibility option)
Thank you. I will have to look.
I haven't used Codeberg before so I was kind of just assuming.
I think I will make my way over to Codeberg.
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gog is nice. I like forgejo myself as its dead simple to get set up. But yeah both are really nice.
iirc, gitea was forked from gogs, and forgejo is forked from gitea
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