Starlink tries to block Virginia’s plan to bring fiber Internet to residents
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It's still a good thing for cell coverage in remote areas for hiking emergencies though. The few satellites that currently do that are stupidly annoying and expensive to use. You have to carry specialized equipment, and if you use Garmin, you pay a yearly fee for the privilege of signing up for the low tier plan, then a monthly fee for the service, and then pay by the text message after the first few. Starlink just added T-Mobile so if you have a newer phone and use T-Mobile you can skip all of that and message out in emergencies without all that nonsense. Hopefully more brands will be added soon, but I don't know.
Or we could just make satellite phone service more accessible? Without the need for thousands of pieces of space trash put into LEO? Nobody needs tiktok when they are climbing a mountain in a remote area.
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I’m so fucking tired of living in this god damned dystopia.
Do something about it then...
PS: maybe you are, if so, Kudos to you... but the majority seem to only rue it
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As much as I dislike the muskrat, is this fiber actually real?
ISPs in US have been given billions of dollars, multiple times to bring Fiber out and each time they've pocketed the cash and done nothing.
Starlink at the very least, exists.
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If this is going to counties and cities to build out municipal fiber, then screw StarLink.
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If this is going to AT&T, again, for the fourth time to build this fiber, then no, give it to StarLink since AT&T will never actually build out that service, fourth time is not the charm.
I take umbrage with StarLink's notion that Fiber is slow to build out though - the single biggest expense and time consuming part of rolling out a GPON network is getting it from the street to inside a premesis.
Guess which part StarLink still has to do and it isn't any cheaper...
I have fiber internet. I don't understand this question. Are you suggesting that nowhere in the US has this technology? Like. This situation (where a private company sues a state, county, municipality etc to stop the rollout of fiber internet (or even another private company) happens so frequently that it's unreal.
There's plenty of places that already have fiber. And those private companies for the most part want to continue growing that user base by rolling out fiber in new markets.
And if it's the state actually controlling the rollout that's better than them just paying a private company to do it? If this weren't a threat to Musk and Starlink he wouldn't be suing.
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Fascism is when capitalists control the government.
And then they use that government to pick winners and losers rather than letting the market decide. And at that point, the economic system is no longer capitalism.
When government is capable of picking those winners and losers, government service becomes more attractive to capitalists than running an actual business.
Ever notice that, for all their bluster, it's usually the big business types in government that push regulations in the name of protecting one thing or another? Kids, environment, jobs, etc....
Because it's not really about helping those kids, or protecting the planet, or anything else. It's about continuing the size and scope of government to make it harder for new competitors to enter the market and provide a service cheaper than the established players can.
Did you know that in many states in the US, if you have a kid, but don't have a grid power connection to your local power provider, that you can be charged with child endangerment? Even if you have off-grid electrical power.
Your local power provider loves that. It's basically illegal to not have their service, so they can charge you basically whatever they want. "What about the public service utility commissions?" What about them? They're all corrupt AF, and worse, typically run by unelected bureaucrats.
Then, add in the localities where the the utility commissions are so corrupt that they allow those same power companies to charge you a fee if you do add your own power generation. Because remember, you still have to have their service. So if you add, say, solar panels, they levy additional fees on you to make up for lost revenue.
And we can't even vote the fuckers out, because it's mostly unelected bureaucrats, and even the few elected officials that exist are just completely bought and paid for by the very same utility company they're supposed to regulate.
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Life is not safe. Adventure even less so. The loss of the night sky and the risk of Kessler syndrome is not outweighed by a slight convenience allowing influencers to stream video and hit social media while pretending to get away from it all.
It's not for streaming. As far as I know it's just text messages. Absolutely agree we should not be using screen time when out and away. We just need that little bit of safety.
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Starlink operator SpaceX is fighting Virginia's plan to deploy fiber Internet service to residents, claiming that federal grant money should be given to Starlink instead. SpaceX is already in line to win over $3 million in grant money in the state but is seeking $60 million.
Starlink is poised to benefit from the Trump administration rewriting rules for the $42 billion Broadband Equity, Access, and Deployment (BEAD) grant program. While the Biden administration decided that states should prioritize fiber in order to build more future-proof networks, the Trump administration ordered states to revise their plans with a "tech-neutral approach" and lower the average cost of serving each location.
Musk is a toxic stink in this world.
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Reminds me of the German Telekom and their unceasing effort to slow down state subsidised fibre deployment.
The subsidies are primarily for towns left behind with bad ADSL (it was below 30mbit average and is now afaik 100mbit), that want to build their own local fibre nets cause nobody else does.
They seem to watch for construction permits and then swoop in and build a few fibre adsl distribution boxes or elevate a street or two with fibre to raise the average speed in town just above threshold. The local net looses the subsidies and usually stops construction or if already built only commercial customers are still allowed to be connected...
Reminds me of the German Telekom and their unceasing effort to slow down state subsidised fibre deploymen
Capitalism is a disease.
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Good luck having that shitty tech win over Europe, where fiber is proliferating particularly quickly. We all know satellite internet cannot come close to the speed and reliability of fiber.
Plus we hate Musk.
It's good for remote areas and at sea, it's shit everywhere else
I could not be more sincere when I say: help us Europe; you're our only hope.
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Don't worry, it ends eventually.
This time, it won't.
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I'd rather Starlink just be independent from Musk. There are people who just can not get a good Internet connection and rely on it, and other Satellite Internet companies are awful.
I hate Musk as much as the next person, but Starlink is brilliant and works well. If they got rid of Musk and stopped being dicks like they are with this, it'd be okay.
I don't know how much Musk can be separated from Starlink. Not only because Starlink, as part of SpaceX, is privately held but also because the main reason they now have a superior service to offer is that they got fucktons of money from government customers, which is also tied to Musk's action
A big part of Musk's involvement with politics is because everything he does, from EVs to rockets to, now, big energy-guzzling datacenters for AI, needs a lot of government backing, if not in terms of direct contracts at least in terms of regulation and incentives.
Even his direct involvement with Trump wasn't because he suddenly became a Nazi (he's probably always been one, according to his own family) but in order to become even more entangled with government investments, even trying to control NASA directly.
And not only US governments. I remember Musk suddenly being everywhere in Europe pitching Starlink. Meloni's government in Italy was grilled for allegedly agreeing on a big contract with Starlink.
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L. Bob Rife in the making, lol
I've been saying this for a while
He's trying to fkn create the Raft
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Starlink operator SpaceX is fighting Virginia's plan to deploy fiber Internet service to residents, claiming that federal grant money should be given to Starlink instead. SpaceX is already in line to win over $3 million in grant money in the state but is seeking $60 million.
Starlink is poised to benefit from the Trump administration rewriting rules for the $42 billion Broadband Equity, Access, and Deployment (BEAD) grant program. While the Biden administration decided that states should prioritize fiber in order to build more future-proof networks, the Trump administration ordered states to revise their plans with a "tech-neutral approach" and lower the average cost of serving each location.
the Trump administration ordered states to revise their plans with a “tech-neutral approach” and lower the average cost of serving each location
In other words don't give the tax payer the best options you can, give them the cheapest options to implement you can.
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It's not for streaming. As far as I know it's just text messages. Absolutely agree we should not be using screen time when out and away. We just need that little bit of safety.
There are also hand held radios, strobelights, flares, and PLBs that do not require more satellite infrastructure.
People being lost in the wilderness is not a new problem. It often happens because people don't bother to consider that they might get lost and plan appropriately.
Sorry, but not everyone gets to come home, especially if they don't do a little planning.
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I'm not sure why people are commenting that I think fiber isn't real?
Of course it's real.
But maybe you're young- Comcast, AT&T, etc, have been given multiple tranches of money since the early 1990s to deliver a nationwide fiber network in the US, they've never delivered more than 0.1% of it.
Giving them more money, won't make it happen.
Giving municipalities (cities, counties) the funds to build out their own fiber networks is good.
Giving more money to Comcast and AT&T to do nothing, is not good, it's corporate welfare.
Giving municipalities (cities, counties) the funds to build out their own fiber networks is good.
Assuming the big ISPs don't sue or lobby to make it against the law for those cities or counties to then build it.
That's common too.
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There are also hand held radios, strobelights, flares, and PLBs that do not require more satellite infrastructure.
People being lost in the wilderness is not a new problem. It often happens because people don't bother to consider that they might get lost and plan appropriately.
Sorry, but not everyone gets to come home, especially if they don't do a little planning.
People should learn to navigate if they're going into the wilderness, and face the consequences if they don't. People will call for additional safety until we all live in padded cells. Frankly, people could stand to face a lot more danger in this world. Maybe then idiots will stop trying to pet the bears at Yellowstone. There's no need to litter the sky with satellites so that the incompetent can live a bit longer.
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I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Capitalism,
is in fact, Fascism, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Government with Benefits.
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This time, it won't.
this reads like an aged alchemist who is convinced he's on the cusp of finding the philosopher's stone
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There are also hand held radios, strobelights, flares, and PLBs that do not require more satellite infrastructure.
People being lost in the wilderness is not a new problem. It often happens because people don't bother to consider that they might get lost and plan appropriately.
Sorry, but not everyone gets to come home, especially if they don't do a little planning.
Ehhh agree that it frequently happens from poor planning, but I think we should do what we can to improve safety rather than blame victims. Learning about and paying for obscure satellite tech only helps those people who already know a lot about hiking, whereas this could bring the tech to everyone with a phone.
But also I think they could do it with a lot fewer satellites than this. They don't need absolutely great coverage. Just a message service. The government could provide this on an emergency basis.
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Starlink operator SpaceX is fighting Virginia's plan to deploy fiber Internet service to residents, claiming that federal grant money should be given to Starlink instead. SpaceX is already in line to win over $3 million in grant money in the state but is seeking $60 million.
Starlink is poised to benefit from the Trump administration rewriting rules for the $42 billion Broadband Equity, Access, and Deployment (BEAD) grant program. While the Biden administration decided that states should prioritize fiber in order to build more future-proof networks, the Trump administration ordered states to revise their plans with a "tech-neutral approach" and lower the average cost of serving each location.
That's the magic hand of the market that all talk about...
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Do something about it then...
PS: maybe you are, if so, Kudos to you... but the majority seem to only rue it
Hey man I'm all ears. Give me something concrete to do.
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