We need to stop pretending AI is intelligent
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Current media and institutions already try to control the conversation and how people think, and I can see futures where AI could be used by those in power to do this more effectively.
You don’t think that’s already happening considering how Sam Altman and Peter Thiel have ties?
I do, but was thinking 1984-levels of control of reality.
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Yeah dude at one point there was no languages and no songs. You can get into "what counts as a language" but at one point there was none. Same with songs.
Language specifically was pretty unlikely to be an individual effort, but at one point people grunting at each other became something else entirely.
Your whole "there is nothing new under the sun" way of thinking is just an artifact of the era you were born in.
Haha wtf are you talking about. You have no idea what generation I am, you don't know how old I am and I never said there is nothing new under the sun.
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Haha wtf are you talking about. You have no idea what generation I am, you don't know how old I am and I never said there is nothing new under the sun.
I'm summarizing your shitty argument and viewpoint. I never said it was a direct quote.
Though, at one point even that tired ass quote and your whole way of thinking was put into words by someone for the first time.
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I think the self driving is likely to be safer in the most boring scenarios, the sort of situations where a human driver can get complacent because things have been going so well for the past hour of freeway driving. The self driving is kind of dumb, but it's at least consistently paying attention, and literally has eyes in the back of it's head.
However, there's so much data about how it fails in stupidly obvious ways that it shouldn't, so you still need the human attention to cover the more anomalous scenarios that foul self driving.
Anomalous scenarios like a giant flashing school bus?
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I'm summarizing your shitty argument and viewpoint. I never said it was a direct quote.
Though, at one point even that tired ass quote and your whole way of thinking was put into words by someone for the first time.
Well you are doing a poor job of it and are bringing an unnecessary amount of heat to an otherwise civil discussion
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Anomalous scenarios like a giant flashing school bus?
Yes, as common as that is, in the scheme of driving it is relatively anomolous.
By hours in car, most of the time is spent on a freeway driving between two lines either at cruising speed or in a traffic jam. The most mind numbing things for a human, pretty comfortably in the wheel house of driving.
Once you are dealing with pedestrians, signs, intersections, etc, all those despite 'common' are anomolous enough to be dramatically more tricky for these systems.
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Well you are doing a poor job of it and are bringing an unnecessary amount of heat to an otherwise civil discussion
That's right. If you cannot win the argument the next best thing is to call for civility.
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much less? I'm pretty sure our brains need food and food requires lots of other stuff that need transportation or energy themselves to produce.
Your brain is running on sugar. Do you take into account the energy spent in coal mining, oil fields exploration, refinery, transportation, electricity transmission loss when computing the amount of energy required to build and run AI? Do you take into account all the energy consumption for the knowledge production in first place to train your model?
Running the brain alone is much less energy intensive than running an AI model. And the brain can create actual new content/knowledge. There is nothing like the brain. AI excel at processing large amount of data, which the brain is not made for. -
At least in my car, the lane following (not keeping system) is handy because the steering wheel naturally tends to go where it should and less often am I "fighting" the tendency to center. The keeping system is at least for me largely nothing. If I turn signal, it ignores me crossing a lane. If circumstances demand an evasive maneuver that crosses a line, it's resistance isn't enough to cause an issue. At least mine has fared surprisingly well in areas where the lane markings are all kind of jacked up due to temporary changes for construction. If it is off, then my arms are just having to generally assert more effort to be in the same place I was going to be with the system. Generally no passenger notices when the system engages/disengages in the car except for the chiming it does when it switches over to unaided operation.
So at least my experience has been a positive one, but it hits things just right with intervention versus human attention, including monitoring gaze to make sure I am looking where I should. However there are people who test "how long can I keep my hands off the steering wheel", which is a more dangerous mode of thinking.
And yes, having cameras everywhere makes fine maneuvering so much nicer, even with the limited visualization possible in the synthesized 'overhead' view of your car.
The rental cars I have driven with lane keeper functions have all been too aggressive / easily fooled by visual anomalies on the road for me to feel like I'm getting any help. My wife comments on how jerky the car is driving when we have those systems. I don't feel like it's dangerous, and if I were falling asleep or something it could be helpful, but in 40+ years of driving I've had "falling asleep at the wheel" problems maybe 3 times - not something I need constant help for.
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i dont have anything else going on, man
There's that... though even when you're bored, you still sleep sometimes.
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And they made the programs you seem to trust so much.
Ya... Humans so far have made everything not produced by Nature on Earth.