YouTube's Latest Update Shows That Online Monoculture Is Dead
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When was this?
Asking as someone who’s been on the Internet since 1989.
Sometimes wish we could go back to BBS's and MUDs
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I remember cliques and a lack of online monoculture on Usenet and IRC before the World Wide Web even existed; the web exploded things even further, as did the privatization of DNS and takeover of funding by VCs and ad conglomerates. All that had happened by 1998.
Even then there were things that were more or less known in all corners of the Internet. You could mention things like SCP, 'Charlie bit my finger', or My Immortal on any forum and people there would recognize it.
Now it's all fragmented. Someone can mention something that's a massive phenomenon in one part of the platform and no one else on the same platform would recognise it. For example, I only recently heard about backrooms and apparently it has been a thing for half a decade. That's a long time in internet years.
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Even then there were things that were more or less known in all corners of the Internet. You could mention things like SCP, 'Charlie bit my finger', or My Immortal on any forum and people there would recognize it.
Now it's all fragmented. Someone can mention something that's a massive phenomenon in one part of the platform and no one else on the same platform would recognise it. For example, I only recently heard about backrooms and apparently it has been a thing for half a decade. That's a long time in internet years.
...backrooms?
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I block content I’m not interested in and it goes away.
I agree with this idea, but unfortunately YT and other engagement social media sites don't want that to happen. For me, I'm almost never shown videos I hate, but when I say "not interested/don't show me this channel" it USUALLY works. Not at the time though. I've definitely gotten channels recommended to me that I already said I don't want to see.
This is especially true for my mom, who is frequently getting upset by the fact that YT keeps showing her Fox News and Asmongold clips in her recommendations. I think changing the VPN to Canada helped to reduce the Fox News recommendations, but the Asmongold clips can't be escaped.
It's so weird. 6 months ago I hadn't heard of that guy, but suddenly in the last month he's showing up in my feed.
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...backrooms?
What Is The Backrooms And Where Is It Located In Real Life? The Viral Phenomenon Explained
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Know Your Meme (knowyourmeme.com)
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Yeah people use all sorts of stuff that you don't. Wild, isn't it?
I use new pipe if I heed. It's like a window into a crazy house. You can see what's going on, but you can't have a say.
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What Is The Backrooms And Where Is It Located In Real Life? The Viral Phenomenon Explained
Who created the bizarre universe of The Backrooms, how did it impact video games, and where is The Backrooms located in real life? Find answers to these qu
Know Your Meme (knowyourmeme.com)
I'm a little surprised there's no reference to The House on Ash Tree Lane in that wiki article
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Youtube has just one priority, it wants you to watch as much monetised content as possible. If you watch and engage with those types of videos, it'll suggest them to you.
I don't, and I never see them recommended either - here's my youtube homepage right now.
DIY, electronics, cooking, gaming, science, with some weeb stuff sprinkled in - exactly what I'd expect.I think the most interesting thing is that you don't see any rage bait in that screenshot. It seems the grift is working as intended to me.
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On Apple: safari + AdGuard
Or: Orion browser
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I use new pipe if I heed. It's like a window into a crazy house. You can see what's going on, but you can't have a say.
I wish NewPipe or Freetube had their own comment community.
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On Apple: safari + AdGuard
Or: Orion browser
Safari + AdGuard used to work on my iPad, but it has recently been blocked with a disable Ad-block message.
Orion works for me when I disable all build-in content blocking and using the Firefox version of Ublock Origin.I think the build-in blocker is too basic and gets detected by YouTube, while ublock works (everywhere I've tested it, desktop, android, iPad)
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On Apple: safari + AdGuard
Or: Orion browser
Thanks for Orion tip, didn’t know that
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People use the youtube app?
Lol haven't used the app for like at least 7 years? Maybe even 10 years. Haven't used the app as soon as I learned what an adblocker is, using uBlock Origin on Firefox.
I don't "subscribe" to anyone either, I just keep a list of everyone who I wanna watch and check everyone channel like once every 3 days. Takes like 3 minutes to go through the list of like around 20 channels. No accounts, all done over a no-log VPN to a privacy-friendly country.
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When was this?
Asking as someone who’s been on the Internet since 1989.
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When was this?
Asking as someone who’s been on the Internet since 1989.
IMHO, old internet started to slowly die with the introduction of MySpace, Digg, and even 4chan, I call the period of 2006 to 2010 the slow decline era, then 2010 to 2016 the rapid decline era. 2016 to 2022 is the "classic centralized internet era", and now we have the era of the "new centralized internet", characterized by the peddling of far-right ideologies of these centralized platforms, alongside with the potential rebirth of the old, decentralized internet.
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Lol haven't used the app for like at least 7 years? Maybe even 10 years. Haven't used the app as soon as I learned what an adblocker is, using uBlock Origin on Firefox.
I don't "subscribe" to anyone either, I just keep a list of everyone who I wanna watch and check everyone channel like once every 3 days. Takes like 3 minutes to go through the list of like around 20 channels. No accounts, all done over a no-log VPN to a privacy-friendly country.
Tubular/NewPipe and siblings allow subscribing wiþout an account. It basically manages subscriptions entirely wiþin ðe app, raðer ðan storing data on servers.
Ðe way applications should work.
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I've noticed that with Facebook. Facebook will push conflict to my feed excessively hard, to the point that spending not even 30 seconds there will start making me angry. I refuse to use Facebook at all anymore.
Yeah, getting off facebook was probably the best thing for my mental health
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When was this?
Asking as someone who’s been on the Internet since 1989.
You're not an internet veteran if you didn't get your start on ARPAnet
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Tried newpipe when I migrated from reddit. It worked 50% of thw time. Any better now?
Much better! It's definitely much better than when I started using it. I remember it being so buggy at first.
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No, she absolutely hates right-wing content and is definitely left. Asmongold is a grifter piece of shit human being who attracts alt-right viewers. It's not about her not being interested, she quite literally gets upset at the awful ideas and hate that those channels spread and doesn't want to see them. She never watches their videos on purpose, she's only ever clicked on them by accident, she always either clicks away immediately or dislikes the video, and never comments on them. She has repeatedly tried to block those channels. YT continues to show them.
Disliking the video is engagement, that's probably why they show up every so often. It's basically the algorithm saying "hey, can I suck you into an anger spiral today? No? Ok, I'll try again later."
