Me, who doesn't even have a garage: Yeah... That'e what stops me from getting an EV...

Currently parked in it!

Too real

you don’t even need a garage to charge your EV, just install it on the exterior.

How about talking to the landlords who refuse to install EV chargers? Or maybe talk to manufacturers who won't sell a basic EV that isn't overpriced?

This is just "Am I out of touch? No, it's the children who are wrong!" again.

Yeah lemme just do that on my apartment

Yeah, my bfs dad is constantly filling his house, garage, and yard with a bunch of crap that he'll never use. It just sits there and gets forgotten and deteriorates. Took us 6 years but we got like 90% of what he was storing out of our house too.

What does spyware have to do with EVs?

I know lots of people who just run the cable under the door...

Apparently people are living double lives and are afraid their secret identity will be uncovered by checks notes corporations who already know more about us because we have a smartphone in our pocket.

Privacy matters.

The government and corporations abused this information by stopping protestors getting to their destination.

Protestors can atleast use faraday bags or just leave their phones at home. Now they can't even get to important events.

Now this information is being used by ICE to arrest immigrants.

Considering how conservative views and Nazis are coming back in to fashion, this is very scary for anyone not white and male.

The big thing I see in my mom is she grew up with almost nothing, and all this stuff keeps her a little further from ever being in that situation again. I get it, but it isn't a healthy way to deal with that fear, and you'd be better off saving the money instead. But she doesn't trust banks, so that's another negative. ‍️

Does your apartment have a garage? No? Then what does this add to the conversation?

They wanted to supply some negative charge.

my ford EV has no subscriptions (other than the usual sirius XM and nav subs that all cars have). There is data collection but you are able to opt out.

Also this is more of an issue with new cars in general, not a reason to choose a new ICE vehicle over a new EV.

Pretty sure it's the range and charge times. Especially in the Midwest. I need a car that can take me to Florida in under 16 hours. Also I own a EV

I have a used model 3 (I bought it before shit really started going downhill) and I've been contemplating disconnecting the wifi and cellular antennas. My car wouldn't be able to send any images/video anywhere, I wouldn't be tracked except for my location when I stop at supercharger stations, and I would never have to risk getting Grok installed in my car.

What do landlords have to do with it? Can you not power the charger off 110V or 220V? Do you need a higher amp circuit cut in, larger than 30A? (American question obviously.)

As opposed to what your comment implies, the drivetrain (EV or ICE) has nothing to do with cars spying on you. You should not blame the technology itself because shady car companies spying on your internet connected car. Most of them are well known ICE car brands that do the spying (GM, Volkswagen for instance)

Yes, most new ICE cars are Internet connected now, not just EVs.

Blame those greedy corporations, not the technology.

fast charging requires a larger service connection than a wall outlet. you can slow charge from a normal wall outlet, but it will take ages to fully charge a modest battery.

generally people have it installed by an electrician, running a new conduit from the circuit breaker.