Say Hello to the World's Largest Hard Drive, a Massive 36TB Seagate
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I'm amazed it's only $800. I figured that shit was gonna be like 8-10 thousand.
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The first copy of anything big will suck ass.... and why else would you get a 36TB drive if not to copy a lot of data to it?
Does it really matter that much if the first copy takes a while though? Only doing it once and you don't even have to do it all in 1 go. Just let it run over the weekend would do though.
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no thanks Seagate. the trauma of losing my data because of a botched firmware with a ticking time bomb kinda put me off your products for life.
see you in hell.
Every manufacturer has made a product that failed.
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The first copy of anything big will suck ass.... and why else would you get a 36TB drive if not to copy a lot of data to it?
My primary storage use-case is physical media backups. I literally don't care how long it takes to store, a bluray is 70GB and I've got around 200 of em to backup.
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I'm amazed it's only $800. I figured that shit was gonna be like 8-10 thousand.
Yeah, I expected it to level out around $800 after a few years, not out of the gate. 20TB are still $300 ish new.
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Is it worth replacing within a year only to be sent a refurbished when it dies?
Use redundancy. Don't be a pleb.
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no thanks Seagate. the trauma of losing my data because of a botched firmware with a ticking time bomb kinda put me off your products for life.
see you in hell.
I can certainly understand holding grudges against corporations. I didn’t buy anything from Sony for a very long time after their fuckery George Hotz and Nintendo's latest horseshit has me staying away from them, but that was a single firmware bug that locked down hard drives (note, the data was still intact) a very long time ago. Seagate even issued a firmware update to prevent the bug from biting users it hadn’t hit yet, but firmware updates at the time weren’t really something people thought to ever do, and operating systems did not check for them automatically back then like they do now.
Seagate fucked up but they also did everything they could to make it right. That matters. Plus, look at their competition. WD famously lied about their red drives not being SMR when they actually were. And I’ve only ever had WD hard drives and sandisk flash drives die on me. And guess who owns sandisk? Western Digital!
I guess if you must go with a another company, there’s the louder and more expensive Toshiba drives but I have never used those before so I know nothing about them aside from their reputation for being loud.
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Me who stores important data on seagate external HDD with no backup reading the comments roasting seagate:
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Every manufacturer has made a product that failed.
but not every manufacturer has had class action lawsuits filed against their continued shitty products.
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It isn't as much as you think, high resolution, high bitrate video files are pretty large.
Especially VR files
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Makes me shudder. I have to replace a drive in my array, because it is degraded. It's a 4TB. Imagine having to replace one of these. I'd much rather have a bunch of cheaper drives, even if they are a bit more expensive per TB, because the replacement cost will eventually make the total cost of ownership lower.
Also, repeat with me: "Please give me a Toshiba or Hitachi, please"
So if you have been around long enough you might remember the Hitachi (IBM) deathstars https://wizardprang.wordpress.com/2013/10/14/the-last-deathstar/
I see Hitachi and think no fucking way, where as Seagate I used to see as an always yes. Now I just stick the disks in a zfs array and call it done
What I'm really waiting for is large capacity ssds with sata.
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This hard drive is so big when it backs up it makes a beeping sound.
This hard drive is so big, when I tried to weigh it the scale just said “one at a time please”.
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Me who stores important data on seagate external HDD with no backup reading the comments roasting seagate:
Uh oh!!! Uh oh uh oh uh oh uh oh
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This hard drive is so big, when I tried to weigh it the scale just said “one at a time please”.
This hard drives so big, that two people can access it at the same time and never meet.
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What is the usecase for drives that large?
I 'only' have 12Tb drives and yet my zfs-pool already needs ~two weeks to scrub it all. With something like this it would literally not be done before the next scheduled scrub.
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I can certainly understand holding grudges against corporations. I didn’t buy anything from Sony for a very long time after their fuckery George Hotz and Nintendo's latest horseshit has me staying away from them, but that was a single firmware bug that locked down hard drives (note, the data was still intact) a very long time ago. Seagate even issued a firmware update to prevent the bug from biting users it hadn’t hit yet, but firmware updates at the time weren’t really something people thought to ever do, and operating systems did not check for them automatically back then like they do now.
Seagate fucked up but they also did everything they could to make it right. That matters. Plus, look at their competition. WD famously lied about their red drives not being SMR when they actually were. And I’ve only ever had WD hard drives and sandisk flash drives die on me. And guess who owns sandisk? Western Digital!
I guess if you must go with a another company, there’s the louder and more expensive Toshiba drives but I have never used those before so I know nothing about them aside from their reputation for being loud.
And I’ve only ever had WD hard drives and sandisk flash drives die on me
Maybe it's confirmation bias but almost all memory that failed on me has been sandisk-flash storage. Zhe only exception being a corsair ssd which failed after 3 yrs as the main laptop drive + another 3 as a server boot and log-drive.
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I'm amazed it's only $800. I figured that shit was gonna be like 8-10 thousand.
Well, it's a Seagate, so it still comes out to about a hundred bucks a month.
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they were selling wd red (pro?) drives with smr tech, which is known to be disastrous for disk arrays because both traditional raid and zfs tends to throw them out. the reason for that is when you are filling it up, especially when you do it quickly, it won't be able to process your writes after some time, and write operations will take a very long time, because the disk needs to rearrange its data before writing more. but raid solutions just see that the drive is not responding to the write command for a long time, and they think that's because the drive is bad.
it was a few years ago, but it was a shitfest because they didn't disclose it, and people were expecting that nas drives will work fine in their nas.
they were selling wd red (pro?) drives with smr tech
Didn't they used to have only one "Red" designation? Or maybe I'm hallucinating. I thought "Red Pro" was introduced after that curfuffel to distinguish the SMR from the CMR.
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Any hint about the ironwolfs?
I’ve had my 16TB ironwolf pros spinning for 5 years in my NAS, no issues. People love to trash Seagate but I can’t say I’ve had any issues. I also have 6x10TB barracuda pros and they’re fine too, for about 10 years.
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Can someone recommend me a hard drive that won't fail immediately? Internal, not SSD, from which cheap ones will die even sooner, and I need it for archival reasons, not speed or fancy new tech, otherwise I have two SSDs.
I think refurbished enterprise drives usually have a lot of extra protection hardware that helps them last a very long time. Seagate advertises a mean time to failure on their exos drives of ~200 years with a moderate level of usage. I feel like it would almost always be a better choice to get more refurbished enterprise drives than fewer new consumer drives.
I personally found an 8tb exos on serverpartdeals for ~$100 which seems to be in very good condition after checking the SMART monitoring. I'm just using it as a backup so there isn't any data on it that isn't also somewhere else, so I didn't bother with redundancy.
I'm not an expert, but this is just from the research I did before buying that backup drive.
