Say Hello to the World's Largest Hard Drive, a Massive 36TB Seagate
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In my case, 10+years ago I had 6 * 3tb Seagate disks in a software raid 5. Two of them failed and it took me days to force it back into the raid and get some of the data off. Now I use WD and raid 6.
I read 3 or 4 years ago that it was just the 3tb reds I used had a high failure rate but I'm still only buying WDs
I had a single red 2TB in an old tivo roamio for almost a decade.
Pulled out this weekend, and finally tested it. Failed.
I was planning to move my 1.5T music collection to it. Glad I tested it first, lol.
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Do people actually use such massive hard drives? I still have my 1 TB HDD in my PC (and a 512 GB SSD), lol.
I have just shy of 8TB of data on my home file server.
That's not including my NVR (for security cameras) which has a single 6TB SATA drive sitting around 40% capacity.
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Elaborate please?
what's behind the infamous Seagate BSY bug? - Page 1
what's behind the infamous Seagate BSY bug? - Page 1
(www.eevblog.com)
this thread has multiple documented instances of poor QA and firmware bugs Seagate has implemented at the cost of their own customers.
my specific issue was even longer ago, 20+ years. there was a bug in the firmware where there was a buffer overflow from an int limit on runtime. it caused a cascade failure in the firmware and caused the drive to lock up after it ran for the maximum into limit. this is my understanding of it anyway.
the only solution was to purchase a board online for the exact model of your HDD and swap it and perform a firmware flash before time ran out. I think you could also use a clip and force program the firmware.
at the time a new board cost as much as a new drive, finances of which I didn't have at the time.
eventually I moved past the 1tb of data I lost, but I will never willingly purchase another Seagate.
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monkey's paw curls They're SMR
Seems fine with a couple TB of SSDs to act as active storage with regular rsyncs back to the HDDs. This is fine.
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That's a lot of porn. And possibly other stuff, too.
Nah, the other stuff will all fit on your computer's hard drive, this is only for porn. They should call it the Porn Drive.
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This hard drive is so big that when it sits around the house, it sits around the house.
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Seems fine with a couple TB of SSDs to act as active storage with regular rsyncs back to the HDDs. This is fine.
The first copy of anything big will suck ass.... and why else would you get a 36TB drive if not to copy a lot of data to it?
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This hard drive is so big that when it sits around the house, it sits around the house.
This hard drive is so big when it moves, the Richter scale picks it up.
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This hard drive is so big when it moves, the Richter scale picks it up.
This hard drive is so big when it backs up it makes a beeping sound.
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I'm amazed it's only $800. I figured that shit was gonna be like 8-10 thousand.
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The first copy of anything big will suck ass.... and why else would you get a 36TB drive if not to copy a lot of data to it?
Does it really matter that much if the first copy takes a while though? Only doing it once and you don't even have to do it all in 1 go. Just let it run over the weekend would do though.
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no thanks Seagate. the trauma of losing my data because of a botched firmware with a ticking time bomb kinda put me off your products for life.
see you in hell.
Every manufacturer has made a product that failed.
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The first copy of anything big will suck ass.... and why else would you get a 36TB drive if not to copy a lot of data to it?
My primary storage use-case is physical media backups. I literally don't care how long it takes to store, a bluray is 70GB and I've got around 200 of em to backup.
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I'm amazed it's only $800. I figured that shit was gonna be like 8-10 thousand.
Yeah, I expected it to level out around $800 after a few years, not out of the gate. 20TB are still $300 ish new.
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Is it worth replacing within a year only to be sent a refurbished when it dies?
Use redundancy. Don't be a pleb.
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no thanks Seagate. the trauma of losing my data because of a botched firmware with a ticking time bomb kinda put me off your products for life.
see you in hell.
I can certainly understand holding grudges against corporations. I didn’t buy anything from Sony for a very long time after their fuckery George Hotz and Nintendo's latest horseshit has me staying away from them, but that was a single firmware bug that locked down hard drives (note, the data was still intact) a very long time ago. Seagate even issued a firmware update to prevent the bug from biting users it hadn’t hit yet, but firmware updates at the time weren’t really something people thought to ever do, and operating systems did not check for them automatically back then like they do now.
Seagate fucked up but they also did everything they could to make it right. That matters. Plus, look at their competition. WD famously lied about their red drives not being SMR when they actually were. And I’ve only ever had WD hard drives and sandisk flash drives die on me. And guess who owns sandisk? Western Digital!
I guess if you must go with a another company, there’s the louder and more expensive Toshiba drives but I have never used those before so I know nothing about them aside from their reputation for being loud.
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Me who stores important data on seagate external HDD with no backup reading the comments roasting seagate:
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Every manufacturer has made a product that failed.
but not every manufacturer has had class action lawsuits filed against their continued shitty products.
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It isn't as much as you think, high resolution, high bitrate video files are pretty large.
Especially VR files
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Makes me shudder. I have to replace a drive in my array, because it is degraded. It's a 4TB. Imagine having to replace one of these. I'd much rather have a bunch of cheaper drives, even if they are a bit more expensive per TB, because the replacement cost will eventually make the total cost of ownership lower.
Also, repeat with me: "Please give me a Toshiba or Hitachi, please"
So if you have been around long enough you might remember the Hitachi (IBM) deathstars https://wizardprang.wordpress.com/2013/10/14/the-last-deathstar/
I see Hitachi and think no fucking way, where as Seagate I used to see as an always yes. Now I just stick the disks in a zfs array and call it done
What I'm really waiting for is large capacity ssds with sata.
