Say Hello to the World's Largest Hard Drive, a Massive 36TB Seagate
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no thanks Seagate. the trauma of losing my data because of a botched firmware with a ticking time bomb kinda put me off your products for life.
see you in hell.
but then wd and their fake red nas drives with smr tech?
what else we have?
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no thanks Seagate. the trauma of losing my data because of a botched firmware with a ticking time bomb kinda put me off your products for life.
see you in hell.
Elaborate please?
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Elaborate please?
In my case, 10+years ago I had 6 * 3tb Seagate disks in a software raid 5. Two of them failed and it took me days to force it back into the raid and get some of the data off. Now I use WD and raid 6.
I read 3 or 4 years ago that it was just the 3tb reds I used had a high failure rate but I'm still only buying WDs
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no thanks Seagate. the trauma of losing my data because of a botched firmware with a ticking time bomb kinda put me off your products for life.
see you in hell.
Can someone recommend me a hard drive that won't fail immediately? Internal, not SSD, from which cheap ones will die even sooner, and I need it for archival reasons, not speed or fancy new tech, otherwise I have two SSDs.
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Can someone recommend me a hard drive that won't fail immediately? Internal, not SSD, from which cheap ones will die even sooner, and I need it for archival reasons, not speed or fancy new tech, otherwise I have two SSDs.
Hard drives aren't great for archival in general, but any modern drive should work. Grab multiple brands and make at least two copies. Look for sales. Externals regularly go below $15/tb these days.
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but then wd and their fake red nas drives with smr tech?
what else we have?
Wait.. fake? I just bought some of those.
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Is Seagate still producing shitty drives that fail a few days after the warranty expired?
Mine have been going strong for five years. Ironwolf Pros.
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Hey, they told you how long they expected it to last
Fair point. But still pretty bad. Literally two days after the warranty expired my Seagate drive was broken. This was my first and only Seagate drive. Never again.
Meanwhile my old Western Digital drive is still kicking way beyond it's warranty. Almost 10 years now.
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Sorry but without a banana for scale it's hard to tell how big it really is
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Wait.. fake? I just bought some of those.
they were selling wd red (pro?) drives with smr tech, which is known to be disastrous for disk arrays because both traditional raid and zfs tends to throw them out. the reason for that is when you are filling it up, especially when you do it quickly, it won't be able to process your writes after some time, and write operations will take a very long time, because the disk needs to rearrange its data before writing more. but raid solutions just see that the drive is not responding to the write command for a long time, and they think that's because the drive is bad.
it was a few years ago, but it was a shitfest because they didn't disclose it, and people were expecting that nas drives will work fine in their nas.
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Sorry but without a banana for scale it's hard to tell how big it really is
36 Typical Bananas
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36 Typical Bananas
That quite large then.
I wonder how many pictures of nude bananas you could fit inside??
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A lot of modern AAA games require an SSD, actually.
On top of my head: Cyberpunk, Marvel's Spider-Man 2, Hogwarts Legacy, Dead Space remake, Starfield, Baulder's Gate 3, Palworld, Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart
Both Cyberpunk and BG3 work flawlessly on the external USB hard drive that I use. The loading times suffer a bit, but not to an unplayable degree, not even close
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In my case, 10+years ago I had 6 * 3tb Seagate disks in a software raid 5. Two of them failed and it took me days to force it back into the raid and get some of the data off. Now I use WD and raid 6.
I read 3 or 4 years ago that it was just the 3tb reds I used had a high failure rate but I'm still only buying WDs
Thanks, yeah that makes sense.
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Is Seagate still producing shitty drives that fail a few days after the warranty expired?
Some models are quite a bit worse than average while some are on par with competition
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Can someone recommend me a hard drive that won't fail immediately? Internal, not SSD, from which cheap ones will die even sooner, and I need it for archival reasons, not speed or fancy new tech, otherwise I have two SSDs.
If you're relying on one hard drive not failing to preserve your data you are doing it wrong from the jump. I've got about a dozen hard drives in play from seagate and WD at any given time (mostly seagate because they're cheaper and I don't need speed either) and haven't had a failure yet. Backblaze used to publish stats about the hard drives they use, not sure if they still do but that would give you some data to go off. Seagate did put out some duds a while back but other models are fine.
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Do people actually use such massive hard drives? I still have my 1 TB HDD in my PC (and a 512 GB SSD), lol.
This is an enterprise drive, so it's useful for any usecase where a business needs to store a lot of lightly used data, like historical records that might be accessed infrequently for reporting and therefore shouldn't get be transfered to cold storage.
For a real world example, the business I'm currently contracting at is legally required to retain safety documentation for every machine in every plant they work in. Since the company does contract work in other people's plants that's hundreds of PDFs (many of which are 50+ page scans of paper forms) per plant and hundreds of plants. It all adds up very quickly. We also have a daily log processes where our field workers will log with photographs all of their work every single workday for the customer. Some of these logs contain hundreds of photographs depending on the customer's requirements. These logs are generated every day at every plant so again it adds up to a lot of data being created each month
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with this I can store at least 3 modern "AAA" games
Oh definitely, game sizes are getting extreme and I prefer smaller indie games now 🥲
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Is that just observational, or did you keep track? Backblaze does track their failures, and publishes their data: https://www.backblaze.com/blog/backblaze-drive-stats-for-q1-2025/
Three companies, kept track, but not after I left. It was always funny to me that they bought out Atlas and Maxtor. "Of course they did. Why not dominate the market on shitty drives? lol" I am surprised they hadn't bought Deskstar.
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What models of Seagate drives?
I've been running x4 Seagate ST8000NC0002s 24/7 for almost 5 years, plus 2 more I added about 6 months ago and they've never given me any trouble.
To be fair, the only HDDs I've ever had that failed were two I dropped because I wasn't being careful enough.
All over the map: Barracuda, SkyHawk, Ironwolf, Constellation, Cheetah, etc...
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