Say Hello to the World's Largest Hard Drive, a Massive 36TB Seagate
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There are a number of enterprise storage systems optimized specifically for SMR drives. This is targeting actual data centers, not us humble homelabbers masquerading as enterprises.
humble homelabbers masquerading
LMAO!!
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A lot of modern AAA games require an SSD, actually.
On top of my head:
Cyberpunk, Marvel's Spider-Man 2, Hogwarts Legacy, Dead Space remake, Starfield, Baulder's Gate 3, Palworld, Ratchet & Clank: Rift ApartIndeed, as others have said this isn't a hard requirement. Anyone with a handheld (e.g. Steam Deck) playing off a uSD card uses a device that's an order of magnitude slower for sequential I/O
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It's not a hard requirement.
I can personally guarantee that it is a hard requirement for Spider-Man and Ratchet
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If you've got a RAID array with 1 or 2 parity then manufacturer recertified drives are fine; those are typically drives that just aged out before being deployed, or were traded in when a large array upgraded.
If you're really paranoid you should be mixing mfg dates anyway, so keep some factory new and then add the recerts so the drive pools have a healthy split.
Yep staggering manufacturing dates is a good suggestion. I do it but it does make purchasing during sales periods to get good prices harder. Better than losing multiple drives at once, but RAID needs a backup anyway and nobody should skip that step.
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I can personally guarantee that it is a hard requirement for Spider-Man and Ratchet
That's not how computers work, but sure bro.
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Do people actually use such massive hard drives? I still have my 1 TB HDD in my PC (and a 512 GB SSD), lol.
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Nah, as a fellow data hoarder you're 100% correct. I have a couple of dozen disks, and I've had failures from both Seagate and WD, but the Seagates have failed much more often. For the past couple of years, I've only purchased WD for this reason. I'm down to two Seagate drives now.
I feel like many people with a distaste for WD got burned by the consumer drives (especially the WD Greens). WD's DC line is so good though, especially HC530.
I mostly buy new Toshiba drives now. The WD blue drives are fine. I have a few of them. I have a WD red that is reporting surface errors, it's still going and the number of errors hasn't increased so I'm not stressing replacing it. Also, btrfs gives me peace of mind because I can periodiclly check if my filesystem has corrupted data.
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Pretty sure I had a bigger hard drive than that for my Amiga. You could have broken a toe if you’d dropped it.
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no thanks Seagate. the trauma of losing my data because of a botched firmware with a ticking time bomb kinda put me off your products for life.
see you in hell.
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Do people actually use such massive hard drives? I still have my 1 TB HDD in my PC (and a 512 GB SSD), lol.
Data hoarders could be happy, but otherwise it's mostly enterprise use.
Still, I personally hold about 4 TB of files, and I know people holding over 30 TB.
As soon as your storage needs exceed 1-2 games and a bunch of old photos, demand for space raises quickly.
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Is Seagate still producing shitty drives that fail a few days after the warranty expired?
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I've never had to defragment the ext4 drives in my server. Ext4 is fairly resistant to fragmentation.
It's not really Ext4 doing that, it's a bunch of tricks in the OS layer and the way apps write files to storage that limits it.
You'll see it if you use something like a BT client without pre-allocation, those files can get heavily fragmented depending on the download speed.
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Is Seagate still producing shitty drives that fail a few days after the warranty expired?
Hey, they told you how long they expected it to last
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It's not a hard requirement.
But it is a hard drive requirement.
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Nah, as a fellow data hoarder you're 100% correct. I have a couple of dozen disks, and I've had failures from both Seagate and WD, but the Seagates have failed much more often. For the past couple of years, I've only purchased WD for this reason. I'm down to two Seagate drives now.
I feel like many people with a distaste for WD got burned by the consumer drives (especially the WD Greens). WD's DC line is so good though, especially HC530.
Any hint about the ironwolfs?
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Yep staggering manufacturing dates is a good suggestion. I do it but it does make purchasing during sales periods to get good prices harder. Better than losing multiple drives at once, but RAID needs a backup anyway and nobody should skip that step.
I mean a backup of a RAID pool is likely just another RAID pool (ideally off-site) – maybe a tape library if you've got considerable cash.
Point is that mfg refurbs are basically fine, just be responsible, if your backup pool runs infrequently then that's a good candidate for more white label drives.
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Do people actually use such massive hard drives? I still have my 1 TB HDD in my PC (and a 512 GB SSD), lol.
I have 50t of data total : archival, old project, backups, backups of my physical medias, etc
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no thanks Seagate. the trauma of losing my data because of a botched firmware with a ticking time bomb kinda put me off your products for life.
see you in hell.
but then wd and their fake red nas drives with smr tech?
what else we have?
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no thanks Seagate. the trauma of losing my data because of a botched firmware with a ticking time bomb kinda put me off your products for life.
see you in hell.
Elaborate please?
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Elaborate please?
In my case, 10+years ago I had 6 * 3tb Seagate disks in a software raid 5. Two of them failed and it took me days to force it back into the raid and get some of the data off. Now I use WD and raid 6.
I read 3 or 4 years ago that it was just the 3tb reds I used had a high failure rate but I'm still only buying WDs
