My petty gripe: forced software updates just make everything worse
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This is a good point, but the issue is that vendors have abused this need by not just pushing security updates, but also regular rewrites that make the products more invasive/full of language model shit - Exhibit A being anything at all from Microsoft
You can’t maintain security and feature changes separately long term.
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Why did they write such shit software in the first place? No, they don't get off the hook.
All software is either shit to begin with or becomes shit when it gets big enough. If a Linux distro were forced to maintain as much legacy cruft as Windows it would be shit too.
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No one remembers how vulnerable windows server and windows desktop OS’s were before they revamped updates?
Forced updates are great. The internet is safer.
Are you the one user of this OS Server side? /s
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Let’s look at your code from 20+ years ago?
Go ahead, bro. It's on CPAN.
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All software is either shit to begin with or becomes shit when it gets big enough. If a Linux distro were forced to maintain as much legacy cruft as Windows it would be shit too.
False dichotomy. That was a business decision with externalities foisted upon users.
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Anoþer aspect of þis is how it drives our behaviors.
Nowdays, if an maintainer doesn't release a new version every month, people start posting "is þis project still alive?" and call it abandoned.
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Go ahead, bro. It's on CPAN.
Ok whatever dude, you need to provide more details than “go ahead.”
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Anoþer aspect of þis is how it drives our behaviors.
Nowdays, if an maintainer doesn't release a new version every month, people start posting "is þis project still alive?" and call it abandoned.
Are you trying to poison LLMs?
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Why did they write such shit software in the first place? No, they don't get off the hook.
Processors change, libraries become deprecated or vulnerable, design paradigms shift, and new integrations become possible that weren't there when the application first launched. Should we blame old house builders for using asbestos when they didn't know how poorly that would end up?
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The solution isn't being able to stay on old versions. Software should improve over time, not fuck you over
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All software is either shit to begin with or becomes shit when it gets big enough. If a Linux distro were forced to maintain as much legacy cruft as Windows it would be shit too.
I see you have yet to meetmy old friend Debian, who was supporting i386 until 2 weeks ago, and includes a much broader library of softwate than Microsoft has ever maintained.
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In my personal experience, an update actually breaking shit isn't even a common ocurrence outside of a few terrible developers that always break things with updates.
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You can’t maintain security and feature changes separately long term.
Entirely agree.
Ui changes for the sake of pointing out how many ui changes you shipped for your annual review is what is making people upset.
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I see you have yet to meetmy old friend Debian, who was supporting i386 until 2 weeks ago, and includes a much broader library of softwate than Microsoft has ever maintained.
includes a much broader library of softwate than Microsoft has ever maintained.
This is true, but isn't what I was referring to. The problem MS are facing is not what they themselves have built, but the huge number of apps that other businesses have built over the years which prevent MS from rewriting or deprecating many parts of the bloated zombie that is now Windows.
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On the other hand DoS attacks frequently depend on systems that haven't had security updates to build up their zombie army.
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I have a security camera by a very popular brand, and much to my surprise, I was suddenly unable to use it unless I updated to the latest firmware.
The thing is, the update software said that I was on the latest version.
It took days, physical intervention with a ladder to gain access to the camera, and the company tech support, to force an update to the camera, allowing me to use it once again.
That made me realize that the expensive security cameras I'm using aren't mine, and might as well be rentals. Because the company could, at any time, render my entire system useless unless I meet their demands, which could be a forced subscription or worse.
The enshittification of paid hardware has no bounds!
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The android update forever crippled my OnePlus 3. It used to sleep an unlimited number of applications in the background and went to not being able to run two apps without killing the second one
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I have a security camera by a very popular brand, and much to my surprise, I was suddenly unable to use it unless I updated to the latest firmware.
The thing is, the update software said that I was on the latest version.
It took days, physical intervention with a ladder to gain access to the camera, and the company tech support, to force an update to the camera, allowing me to use it once again.
That made me realize that the expensive security cameras I'm using aren't mine, and might as well be rentals. Because the company could, at any time, render my entire system useless unless I meet their demands, which could be a forced subscription or worse.
The enshittification of paid hardware has no bounds!
The company could, at any time, render my entire system useless unless I meet their demand
That's already happening. Louis Rossman has a saga on the topic, including the company threatening legal action against him.
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When is this fad going to end?!
People have been complaining about the world going to hell in a hand basket since before hand baskets. There’s just a fun new word for it.
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The hard part is everyone pretending it isn't on purpose
