Massive internet outage reported: Google services, Cloudflare, Character.AI among dozens of services impacted
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That's how I read it too at first- and as bad as 'erotic role play' with a LLM chatbot sounds, the other one is so much horribly worse.
Actually RP and by proxy ERP is basically a perfect fit for what LLM are good at.
Good RP is basically nothing but improv and rolling with a functional scenario no matter how weird it gets. Which LLM are fantastic at doing.
You arnt worried about accuracy or memory after all. Just that it can string together coherent English and play pretend with you. Literally the ideal use case for a LLM.
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Strangely enough, twitch streams and chat were working fine but everything else was broken, had an empty following list.
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What browsers does it block?
Minority browsers. Since I daily drive Pale Moon, I'm among the people affected. It's suspected that they test only the 3-4 most popular browsers, and whether anything else works with their code is up to luck.
You may think browsers with tiny market shares aren't important, but all new browsers start out that way. I fear for Ladybird if it ever makes it past the alpha stage, for instance.
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......My UPS kicks in.
Lol the power is out and this guy thinks he's gonna get overnight deliveries smh
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And when I went there, it said Google, Cloudflare, and Frank's Dildo Emporium all down, like of all the random sites, why pick FDE?
Oh shit, a fellow FDE-head in the wild... What do you think of the latest Bad Dragons they just got in? I got one for 50% off, and it was only slightly used by Frank.
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Nowadays they will tell you to work on something else in the meantime.
As someone who hasn't worked anywhere with a profit-motive in over a decade, I don't know how you guys do it. Truly...
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Why though? You have other options less detrimental to the internet than using and supporting them...
Domain registration and renewal is at cost, and DNS is free. I'm not sure what's detrimental to the internet about that...
My paid hosting is elsewhere, so they're not making any money off me.
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By self-hosted you mean you have hardware geographically distributed? Like... boxes at friend's houses or...?
no, self-hosted meaning it's all on the local network. it's just a folder on NAS that has a local DNS route to it.
rewrite rules that rewrite the HTML and replaces "cdn.stuff.com" to "mycdn.local.net".
so not a true CDN, but a mock.
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Dafuq is a character.ai and why is it in the same list as google and cloudflare? Like yea my local grocery store had some issues should that be on the list too?
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The way CDNs and virtual hosts work in general is to read the
hostfield in the HTTP header, otherwise unless you dedicate an IP for each domain / "web site" there would be no way to know what to serve.The issue is if you put the CNAME of foo
www.foo-cloudflare-cdn.com.then it will just resolve to whatever the A/AAAA record is for that, and send the host ofwww.foo.com– which they will only service if that domain is hosted with their nameservers (they run automated checks to make sure you're actually doing so).
So there isn't really an easy way to just give cloudflare some subdomain, unless you pay them $$,$$$+ for the privilege.Valve actually does that, ironically enough, for the steam community web assets they use Fastly, Akamai, and CloudFront, all on subdomains of course
.The way CDNs and virtual hosts work in general is to read the host field in the HTTP header, otherwise unless you dedicate an IP for each domain / “web site” there would be no way to know what to serve.
But the point of CDNs is to direct connections to a geographically-near IP, yes?
The domain name that any CDN webserver in different regions will get in the HTTP request headers is going to be the same, CNAME or no.
The issue is if you put the CNAME of foo www.foo-cloudflare-cdn.com. then it will just resolve to whatever the A/AAAA record is for that, and send the host of www.foo.com – which they will only service if that domain is hosted with their nameservers (they run automated checks to make sure you’re actually doing so).
Ah, okay, I could see someone having automated checks that actively prevent it.
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Strangely enough, twitch streams and chat were working fine but everything else was broken, had an empty following list.
It's seen tech talks by Twitch's engineering team. Some of those folks are scary smart.
Not that it takes that much cleverness to avoid using CloudFlare, of course.
But might be related. Twitch had some clever fallbacks and work-arounds for slow Internet, in that tech talk.
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I actually enjoy when this happens. All this centralized shit will not end well.
Centralized is control. Control is profit. It’s already not “well”, that’s why we’re here discussing it.
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c/selfhosted having a field day rn
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I remember the day I went why are we all selfhosting and still relying on a site like Cloudflare?.
I'm glad I agreed with me on it.
I used Cloudflare tunneling for a while, then started to have similar thoughts. I'm off Cloudflare now.
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c/selfhosted having a field day rn
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Dafuq is a character.ai and why is it in the same list as google and cloudflare? Like yea my local grocery store had some issues should that be on the list too?
An AI chatbot that pretends to be a character and you roleplay with it.
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Dafuq is a character.ai and why is it in the same list as google and cloudflare? Like yea my local grocery store had some issues should that be on the list too?
Had to include something AI because of the craze, probably picked at random
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The way CDNs and virtual hosts work in general is to read the host field in the HTTP header, otherwise unless you dedicate an IP for each domain / “web site” there would be no way to know what to serve.
But the point of CDNs is to direct connections to a geographically-near IP, yes?
The domain name that any CDN webserver in different regions will get in the HTTP request headers is going to be the same, CNAME or no.
The issue is if you put the CNAME of foo www.foo-cloudflare-cdn.com. then it will just resolve to whatever the A/AAAA record is for that, and send the host of www.foo.com – which they will only service if that domain is hosted with their nameservers (they run automated checks to make sure you’re actually doing so).
Ah, okay, I could see someone having automated checks that actively prevent it.
But the point of CDNs is to direct connections to a geographically-near IP, yes?
That's generally right enough, the goal of a CDN is to deliver content from a server close to the consumer as possible (ideally on their ISP network using cache servers to avoid going out over the "wider internet".) – however CDN networks typically also use Anycast IP addresses, which means that all of the CDN servers across their network use the same pool of IP addresses, and BGP / the routing table dictate what actual physical server you get routed to. This is typically the ideal closest server, however sometimes you want certain IP pools in certain regions for legal (China), or technical reasons, so the IP address returned by a given A/AAAA lookup for a CDN isn't a given.
There's also ECN and other optimization CDNs can do on the lookup side but that's outside of the scope here.The domain name that any CDN webserver in different regions will get in the HTTP request headers is going to be the same, CNAME or no.
Yeah, so the CNAME just says "whatever A/AAAA address that resolves to" and the HTTP client will send whatever
HOSTit thinks its connecting to, meaning you can't "mask" the actual domain you're using by using a CNAME record.Technically if you have a totally static IP serving a single site, it's possible to ignore the HOST field and always serve that site, since logically, any request is only meant for that given site (this is basically the default site on something like Apache).
My main point is that there's really no getting around that CloudFlare requires you to be locked in to their platform even if you just wanna serve R2 files from a subdomain, and I personally find that a bit spooky, migrating nameservers can have very long propagation times leaving your site unreachable if they decide they don't want you as a customer anymore, or as a shakedown.
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Lol the power is out and this guy thinks he's gonna get overnight deliveries smh
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See, there's still a niche for the internal combustion engine over electric. Good luck driving your tesla in a blackout!
