NVIDIA is full of shit
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It absolutely is, because Ray tracing isn’t just about how precise or good the reflections/shadows look, it’s also about reflecting/getting shadows from things that are outside of your field of view. That’s the biggest difference.
One of the first “holy shit!” moments for me was playing doom I think it was, and walking down a corridor and being able to see that there were enemies around the corner by seeing their reflection on the opposite wall. That’s never been possible before, and it’s only possible thanks to raytracing. Same with being able to see shadows from enemies that are behind you out of screen to the side.
But we can do these reflections with raster already? And you skipped my point. You mention walking down a hall. I said when I'm running and gunning and shits exploding. You're turning and focusing on shooting an enemy or something, there's no way I'm noticing or paying attention to a reflection of an enemy down a hall.
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But we can do these reflections with raster already? And you skipped my point. You mention walking down a hall. I said when I'm running and gunning and shits exploding. You're turning and focusing on shooting an enemy or something, there's no way I'm noticing or paying attention to a reflection of an enemy down a hall.
No we can’t.
I was running and gunning - it was doom 2016! Maybe you don’t pay much attention to your surroundings in games, but others do. Maybe you don’t play competitive online shooters at a high level like others do? That’s the sort of thing that separates the best from the rest.
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Which also means it's not possible to use it to go to 1000 fps
So it has limits? Oh no….. At 1000fps you can’t do much rendering effects at all. Luckily no one, and I do literally mean no one, plays games at 1000fps.
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No we can’t.
I was running and gunning - it was doom 2016! Maybe you don’t pay much attention to your surroundings in games, but others do. Maybe you don’t play competitive online shooters at a high level like others do? That’s the sort of thing that separates the best from the rest.
I'm sorry, I would be really impressed if you shit a rocket at a demon in doom eternal and it exploded and all kinds of shits flying around but you noticed the reflection of another around a corner on a shiny wall at the same time. There might be like 4 frames of this captured.
Yes, I play a lot of FPS games. I have an ultra wide monitor and 144Hz.
Not to mention, raster is capable of doing these things, it's just not "as realistic". I've watched several comparison videos.
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@FreedomAdvocate This is my last answer.
Anti Consumer = working against the Consumer ...
^^^ if you define NVidias Consumer as business
If you define NVidia Consumers as common people wanting a gamer gpu than you can keep believing that they try to do all those things to make you the cheapest and best offer and keep buying them.
I am not going to stop you! Since you don't know me and you don't know my experience and past with nvidia and seem not want to accept my standpoint -> i am not going to force it on you. But i want to ask you to refer from calling something "most stupid" just because you aren't sharing the other opinion...
Ok cool, so you do think that having to pay for a GPU is “anti-consumer” and think that everything should be free.
We’re done here.
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I'm sorry, I would be really impressed if you shit a rocket at a demon in doom eternal and it exploded and all kinds of shits flying around but you noticed the reflection of another around a corner on a shiny wall at the same time. There might be like 4 frames of this captured.
Yes, I play a lot of FPS games. I have an ultra wide monitor and 144Hz.
Not to mention, raster is capable of doing these things, it's just not "as realistic". I've watched several comparison videos.
Well you’d be impressed then
Playing a lot of fps games doesn’t mean you can play at a high level. Having an ultrawide monitor and 144hz is completely irrelevant lol. There are people with 4K 200+hz monitors and 5090s who are trash at competitive play.
Raster isn’t capable of these things, that’s why it’s never been done until raytracing came along. Rasterization rasters what is on the screen, nothing outside of that.
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So it has limits? Oh no….. At 1000fps you can’t do much rendering effects at all. Luckily no one, and I do literally mean no one, plays games at 1000fps.
Yes, but that also means there's no FPS advantage at all at 500 Hz using DLSS and people do play at 500Hz
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Yes, but that also means there's no FPS advantage at all at 500 Hz using DLSS and people do play at 500Hz
If you’re playing games at 500fps you don’t need DLSS. What is your point? Again - it’s for situations where you can’t get a good framerate at the settings you want to use.
How is this hard to understand?
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If you’re playing games at 500fps you don’t need DLSS. What is your point? Again - it’s for situations where you can’t get a good framerate at the settings you want to use.
How is this hard to understand?
My point is my 2060 can't reach 500 fps even if you run the game in DLSS. You need a more powerful GPU, DLSS can only increase your FPS if the FPS is terrible, it can't boost you from 250 to 500
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My point is my 2060 can't reach 500 fps even if you run the game in DLSS. You need a more powerful GPU, DLSS can only increase your FPS if the FPS is terrible, it can't boost you from 250 to 500
But no one said it would?
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But no one said it would?
It would if DLSS didn't add latency, but it does
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It would if DLSS didn't add latency, but it does
It adds rendering time, not "latency" btw.
DLSS improves framerates at basically no cost, to let people hit playable or high framerates at quality levels they couldn't without it. It's not for hitting 500fps, it's for hitting 30/60/100 etc.
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It adds rendering time, not "latency" btw.
DLSS improves framerates at basically no cost, to let people hit playable or high framerates at quality levels they couldn't without it. It's not for hitting 500fps, it's for hitting 30/60/100 etc.
It doesn't render anything, so it can't add rendering time, it just generates an upscaled version of an already rendered frame
