I only buy cheap shit. And I never, ever, ever ever ever connect anything to the net that doesn't absolutely need to be connected.

If I need an air fryer and the cheap one has smart shit on it. I will never connect that shit to the net. Never. Why the fuck would I? It's an air fryer. Not a laptop.

it is first and foremost a

Hardware issue.

but also who the fuck wants to have a power hungry PC as the router. old PC, so we can probably count with 80 W at the least

but also, how the fuck would a PC help with the skill issue?

I set a timer on your phone to match(ish) the timer on the air fryer

It means you don't know how to make it work. Last I checked, a used N100 all in one PC with dual Ethernet is cheaper than even most brand new consumer routers, and also sips watts.

My husband has been wondering if he should get formally diagnosed for ADHD now that our kid has been. (Talk about a carbon copy of a parent, this kid, geeze.) This explains a lot about the way he cooks. He always says it’s because he “needs more practice” but all I see is a chaotic stressful experience, and of course if I try to help him I just get in the way and make him irritated that I seem to think he can’t manage it on his own. Anyway all I’m saying is that it’s interesting to read your comment because I wonder if that’s my husband’s trouble, too.

Certainly sounds familiar, my tip to him is to try and write recipes down and get in the habit of mise en place-ing (prep chopping / pre-measuring) when you know what you're gonna cook. Once the food hits the hot pan, any semblance of a plan goes out the window

(but also know "sticking to habits" is hard for us with ADHD, as it frequently goes against our nature, so don't be shocked if he struggles there)

I tend to be the one to cook the "whatever's leftover in the fridge" dish, which is a guaranteed source of a little chaos. In those instances it's always helpful to have my wife around to pass ingredients or do some prep tasks on the side so I don't lose focus and burn the onions.

Also, if you don't already have recipes written down, having someone help build out a recipe book as you go can help smooth out future cooks.

Shout out to Recipe Keeper - after a first cook, usually from a website or book, we put everything we like in there for future reference.

largest majority of smarthome shit users don't know or care how computers work. are you willing to legally ban them from buying these garbage? or what is the solution?

and then they need to set it up (wtf, they have issues navigating their phones), and get it maintained (updates)

also, in my area most people either use the ISP router, or buy the cheapest ones which is around 50-75 eur which there are plenty, and they are already complaining that it's too expensive

cheapest n100 I see here is 100 eur: https://www.amazon.fr/intel-n100/s?k=intel+n100

I'm not in france.

There are numerous benefits in IoT / smart home and ubiquitous computing. Used in the right ways it can make your life so much better and even save lives. It is just sad to see all the wasted potential, the greediness and straight up noncompliance with basic human rights and needs for simplicity and privacy in its design.

Funny enough, it got me into reading some threads of people reverse engineering air fryer APIs (didn't expect that to ever happen) and it reminded me again of how great and compassionate some people are. Makes the stupid cat and mouse game seem even more stupid when 3 guys in their spare time can rebuild a 5 layer deep authentication stack with some unknown Philips / Xiaomi server that probably needed tens or even hundreds of engineers to build in an obfuscated manner in the first place.

I completely agree. If it's a household appliance, it better not fucking connect to the internet.

I just recently started getting into smart home products such as smart plugs and stuff and I absolutely make certain that they don't have internet connection and use home assistant to keep the data local.

I will only use Zigbee or Z-Wave devices so that there's no way they can connect to the internet.

You can't buy used on Amazon. I said used

The largest majority of people also can't be bothered to do a single shred of research before buying something. How is that anyone else's problem but theirs?

The best consumer protection comes from the consumer. Do a bit of research before you buy something.

If you can't be bothered to take a few extra minutes to do that, then quite frankly, you deserve to be fucked by scammers.

Again. That's a lack of skill. Why is it my problem?

If they can't be bothered to do 5 minutes of research before buying something, that's on them.

Caveat emptor.

I will never allow IoT devices into this house unless they can be used offline.

If you can't be bothered to take a few extra minutes to do that, then quite frankly, you deserve to be fucked by scammers.

and this is exactly how being fucked by scammers will become normal

stop with your fucking elitism and start thinking what to do for those whos work/hobby is not in IT, because that's 99.999% of people.

Why is it my problem?

Because when manufacturers see that they can get away with this shit, they will all start doing it, and then you can stick up your research because there will be nothing else.

Only if it's made too hard for a new company or more options to emerge.

It's not elitism to say "If you want something done right, do it yourself."

Elitism?

Dude. I am an almost 50 year old, former truck driver with no formal education on any of this shit, and yet, I managed to figure it out.

If you can't, then that's most assuredly a YOU problem.

SURELY you're smarter than a truck driver?

Here, let me help.

https://ebay.us/m/3res0I

Less than 20 USD.

Like I said. Not willing to even try to look for something appropriate for your use case.....

It's not about me, but about all the people around me

So punish those of us who do know how to make the cheap stuff work in a way we want, by removing the cheap stuff from the market, because other idiots don't?

Yeah, solid idea.