StopKillingGames - Yet another reminder for European citizens to fight for software ownership before the timer runs out. A signature takes mere minutes and preserves many games and lots of fun.
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He thinks the initiative's goal isn't clear and passing a law based on an unclear direction would effectively kill all live service games.
The problem is, reason behind making a law about it is clarifying how to approach this problem in the first place.
Ahh it sort of makes sense if you don't think about it too long, gotcha.
Thanks very much!
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800k!!!
876k now - at this speed it will be done tomorrow, or at latest in 2 days!
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876k now - at this speed it will be done tomorrow, or at latest in 2 days!
898k. I'm very happy this is happening. but I'm worried about how sudden the signatures started coming in, there was a chart somewhere. Hopefully they are valid.
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Here is a real-time signature counter for the EU: https://stopkillinggamestracker.pages.dev/
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Can someone explain to me why Pirate Software has such a big problem with it, I tried to look it up and I'm still struggling to understand.
He has multiple conflicts of interest and is taking the side of his wallet and not consumers.
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Fuck Thor.
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He thinks the initiative's goal isn't clear and passing a law based on an unclear direction would effectively kill all live service games.
The problem is, reason behind making a law about it is clarifying how to approach this problem in the first place.
I don't think "killing all live servoce games" would even be bad at this point. When I ran dedicated servers back in the day that was much better.
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I don't think "killing all live servoce games" would even be bad at this point. When I ran dedicated servers back in the day that was much better.
and like, one of the options would be for live service games to say "we are planning to operate for {number} of years" and people would know to spend their money accordingly
it would be transparent and informative and people would be empowered to make their own decisions
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and like, one of the options would be for live service games to say "we are planning to operate for {number} of years" and people would know to spend their money accordingly
it would be transparent and informative and people would be empowered to make their own decisions
I wish they dropped the server code for us all to see what metrics etc they've been digging for all these years...
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898k. I'm very happy this is happening. but I'm worried about how sudden the signatures started coming in, there was a chart somewhere. Hopefully they are valid.
Since you need an Digital ID to sign, given by your government, i can't think of many issues.
e: i just looked since it was a while since i signed - you need to give your Passport number to sign, or use eID.
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I don't think "killing all live servoce games" would even be bad at this point. When I ran dedicated servers back in the day that was much better.
Dunno if you've noticed - in today's world politicians and businessmen want the server side to be precious magic.
Having anything dedicated is opposed to that.
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Can someone explain to me why Pirate Software has such a big problem with it, I tried to look it up and I'm still struggling to understand.
Without diving tooo much into it, I'm pretty sure the main reason is he doesn't want government regulation around the games industry.
The most generous summary of his better points would be that it is not always feasible to leave a game in a playable state since server architecture might not allow for that. Semi fair since the games industry has gotten to a point where some of these games may be using code contracted from a third party making releasing the binaries difficult from a licensing perspective.
However he seems to have taken playable as 'designed for single player'. Using the hypothetical of MMOs needing to be rebalanced around a single player experience. He extended this to a game Meet Your Maker which is reliant on other real players for the experience and saying there is no way to leave that 'playable.
As a note, Stop Killing Games is NOT asking for any rebalancing to be done and this is an entirely fabricated complaint.
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Since you need an Digital ID to sign, given by your government, i can't think of many issues.
e: i just looked since it was a while since i signed - you need to give your Passport number to sign, or use eID.
Not necessarily. But nontheless fraud will be detected when the local governments check on that.
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Since you need an Digital ID to sign, given by your government, i can't think of many issues.
e: i just looked since it was a while since i signed - you need to give your Passport number to sign, or use eID.
that's good to know. when I signed last year I think it was enough to type in my id card's number and my name and location.
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Without diving tooo much into it, I'm pretty sure the main reason is he doesn't want government regulation around the games industry.
The most generous summary of his better points would be that it is not always feasible to leave a game in a playable state since server architecture might not allow for that. Semi fair since the games industry has gotten to a point where some of these games may be using code contracted from a third party making releasing the binaries difficult from a licensing perspective.
However he seems to have taken playable as 'designed for single player'. Using the hypothetical of MMOs needing to be rebalanced around a single player experience. He extended this to a game Meet Your Maker which is reliant on other real players for the experience and saying there is no way to leave that 'playable.
As a note, Stop Killing Games is NOT asking for any rebalancing to be done and this is an entirely fabricated complaint.
You have to remember that it's not retroactive so it should only affect future games. The games at that point wouldn't have that issue because they would know not to do anything to make it extremely difficult if not impossible to release a server or something. So even that point of his is pretty dumb.
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Since you need an Digital ID to sign, given by your government, i can't think of many issues.
e: i just looked since it was a while since i signed - you need to give your Passport number to sign, or use eID.
Probably specific by country then because I didn't have to show any ID. FWIW
"To sign, you must provide a set of personal data, which is required by the authorities of your country for verification purposes." which is as of a week ago and still today :
- nationality
- name
- birth date
- address
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Since you need an Digital ID to sign, given by your government, i can't think of many issues.
e: i just looked since it was a while since i signed - you need to give your Passport number to sign, or use eID.
apparently polish people get so little verification that a friend of mine signed the petition 14 times with his name, adding a random letter each time
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Dunno if you've noticed - in today's world politicians and businessmen want the server side to be precious magic.
Having anything dedicated is opposed to that.
Which is certainly why it'd be a good thing to do
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apparently polish people get so little verification that a friend of mine signed the petition 14 times with his name, adding a random letter each time
Your friend is not very clever, is he?
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Sign the petition even if it's surpassed 1mil signatures by the time you read this! The signatures will be verified after the petition is complete. This could lead to removal of any number of them. We don't want to barely make it. Let's go as high as possible!
