Florida sues some of the biggest porn platforms( XVideos, XNXX, BangBros, GirlsGoneWild, GTFlix TV and more) accusing them of not complying with the state's age verification law
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the companies/sites itself can block the site from being acessed from florida though if they choose. yea if it accesible from florida, they have to follow the legislation there.
block the site from being acessed from florida though if they choose
How? I do not think we know of a reliable way, DNS blocking get bypassed by alternative DNS ( and ISP probably do not have per state DNSes) , IP blocking get bypassed via VPN, etc. They can say they did put in place something but it is like puttimg a fence without walls around, it is just symbolic.
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Prelude to a closed (north korea/russia style) internet?
Don't forget China-style. But yes.
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it also means dick
Really?! Where?
Public airport restrooms and the like.
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@Jaded99 @Tollana1234567 not me, all i ever pay for online is steam games XD
Good on ya mate. You don't need to watch someone sitting on a cake. LOL
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Its kinda funny how this bill is being introduced under the premise of "protecting children" but Girls Gone Wild is still allowed to operate after getting caught multiple times distributing child pornography
And by funny obviously I mean horrifying
We can't release the Epstein list, but we're proud to announce the newest Amazon Exclusive release from the Epstein Films catalog!
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Girls gone wild!?!? What are they making 12 year olds verify their age to jack it to infomercials at 3am?
They have no idea what kids are capable of overcoming to access porn.
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Girls gone wild is still in activity? Didn't they lost the lawsuit for coercing all those girls and even have some minor in their videos?
Fuck them
I did a bit of googling as you unlocked that memory, but it's actually Girls Do Porn.
If anyone hasn't heard of them, you can read about it here https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/03/jane-does-v-girlsdoporn-how-22-millennial-women-brought-down-a-porn-empire/
It's absolutely horrendous and I feel incredibly sorry for these women. It definitely made me feel uncomfortable watching porn for a while.
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Two problems here.
One is jurisdiction. If the website is not incorporated in Florida, has no offices in Florida, and does not use Florida servers, why should they be subject to Florida law? Everything they do is completely legal in their home jurisdiction.
This sort of enforcement is basically impossible on the internet. If anybody can access any website from anywhere, how is the website supposed to keep up with hundreds or thousands of changing jurisdictions each with their own legal requirements? And why should they have to?Second is interstate commerce clause of the Constitution. It reserves to the federal government the right to regulate interstate commerce. I would think that demanding that a out of state business change its business practices would fall afoul of that.
Now it could be argued that since the website advertises in Florida and accepts sign ups from Florida residents, that they do business in Florida. However the simple solution there would be to disable payment for Florida residents.
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I have a massive block list on connect to filter out the brain rot. I still want to read the tech news and keep up with the times. I am not coco meloning myself with tik tok and the likes and I am most certainly not watching hide the sausage
that's pure brain damage.
Well, you filter your posts, we filter our porn.
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Two problems here.
One is jurisdiction. If the website is not incorporated in Florida, has no offices in Florida, and does not use Florida servers, why should they be subject to Florida law? Everything they do is completely legal in their home jurisdiction.
This sort of enforcement is basically impossible on the internet. If anybody can access any website from anywhere, how is the website supposed to keep up with hundreds or thousands of changing jurisdictions each with their own legal requirements? And why should they have to?Second is interstate commerce clause of the Constitution. It reserves to the federal government the right to regulate interstate commerce. I would think that demanding that a out of state business change its business practices would fall afoul of that.
Now it could be argued that since the website advertises in Florida and accepts sign ups from Florida residents, that they do business in Florida. However the simple solution there would be to disable payment for Florida residents.
If the customers are still in Florida and they still earn money in Florida, they are still subject to Florida law.
The way they handle conflicting requirements in different regions is to use regional flags. It's quite simple and it's been done for a long time in more tightly regulated fields like e.g. online shopping.
If it's legal to sell weed online in some areas and illegal in others, you can't just say "Well, our servers are in a region where it's legal so we send weed all over the world."
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Should I argue in a respectful way with ppl who defend their urge to splooge over human well being?
news flash in a good world porn wouldn't even exist which literally means those women do not want to participate in porn but they have almost no choice, a lot of them are addicts, have no caring family, trafficked, trying to keep a roof over their head, been recruited since childhood. It's abuse, exploitation, pure harm against ppl who have lost everything already. Please see the suicide rates of pornstars most of you are watching dead ppl hide the sausage. Both men and women kill themselves btw.
It's disgusting that you ppl can't find healthy ways to enjoy sex. Look at all the ppl defending porn in the comments.
Cool man, fyi generally you want to avoid projecting assumptions on people and listen instead to their actual point. You're not arguing with caricatures, you're arguing with other people who might know as much or more than you do, so the preachy tone isn't doing you any favours in trying to convince people.
A big argument against this type of blocking is giving up private information to private entities to access content that can be tracked back to them is a huge risk for privacy, it doesn't matter if it's porn or something else, you can see it in the UK too where speech about Palestine is being blocked by the same ruling that is "protecting children". Someone else here also raised a good point, why is it on these websites to implement age verification and not on the state, when many of those websites aren't hosted in Florida?
But no you're not interested in a good debate, you just see a political choice that aligns with your views and anyone who has issues with the implementation, consequences, or any other issue (including a porn ban in general) is treated like the worst of the worst. "Surely this is a morally good thing, so all who oppose must be morally abhorrent", except this is exactly why the lawmakers prey on when they implement surveillance type shit all in the name of "protecting the children", they make it so arguing against it is seen as protecting abusers when the same resolution could be reached in a way that doesn't infringe on people's privacy.
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Two problems here.
One is jurisdiction. If the website is not incorporated in Florida, has no offices in Florida, and does not use Florida servers, why should they be subject to Florida law? Everything they do is completely legal in their home jurisdiction.
This sort of enforcement is basically impossible on the internet. If anybody can access any website from anywhere, how is the website supposed to keep up with hundreds or thousands of changing jurisdictions each with their own legal requirements? And why should they have to?Second is interstate commerce clause of the Constitution. It reserves to the federal government the right to regulate interstate commerce. I would think that demanding that a out of state business change its business practices would fall afoul of that.
Now it could be argued that since the website advertises in Florida and accepts sign ups from Florida residents, that they do business in Florida. However the simple solution there would be to disable payment for Florida residents.
Because they offer their services to people living in Florida.
Same reason as to why you should include VAT on your prices if you sell to EU citizens
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Cool man, fyi generally you want to avoid projecting assumptions on people and listen instead to their actual point. You're not arguing with caricatures, you're arguing with other people who might know as much or more than you do, so the preachy tone isn't doing you any favours in trying to convince people.
A big argument against this type of blocking is giving up private information to private entities to access content that can be tracked back to them is a huge risk for privacy, it doesn't matter if it's porn or something else, you can see it in the UK too where speech about Palestine is being blocked by the same ruling that is "protecting children". Someone else here also raised a good point, why is it on these websites to implement age verification and not on the state, when many of those websites aren't hosted in Florida?
But no you're not interested in a good debate, you just see a political choice that aligns with your views and anyone who has issues with the implementation, consequences, or any other issue (including a porn ban in general) is treated like the worst of the worst. "Surely this is a morally good thing, so all who oppose must be morally abhorrent", except this is exactly why the lawmakers prey on when they implement surveillance type shit all in the name of "protecting the children", they make it so arguing against it is seen as protecting abusers when the same resolution could be reached in a way that doesn't infringe on people's privacy.
You think we have privacy??? hahaha
It's too late for that now. You're all already on a list somewhere.
This is not full on censorship, it's not a black and white issue. The open internet and the dark web needs to be regulated for criminal, abusive, exploitative content. It's for the good of humanity in the long run. Big brother needs to save you all from yourselves. The male loneliness epidemic is already reaching crazy numbers and so is abuse against women and children but nobody in the manosphere wants to address that.
As long as they can keep crusting in moms musty basement.It's sick
I know of men who have become so addicted to it that they watch it at work and harrass their female co workers and every female around them. I see it destroying heterosexual relationships daily. I am very anti religious but please do inform me what good does porn bring? In what way is it healthy?
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Well, you filter your posts, we filter our porn.
How do you know which actors are drugged up, which are trafficked, which may secretly be underage, who was coerced or manipulated, which are willing, which are faking, which are there because otherwise they'd be homeless, which are being abused off camera, which are being raped?
There's no way to know any of this.
Do you think what you are doing watching it is good and good for you?
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Let me guess you're just watching all the "tame" step mom videos? I heard those ones are healthier than the step dad videos.
Coom on... it's good for you and your pp. Definitely won't get addicted and want harder stuff down the line.
EnjoyCalling fentanyl users former porn addicts is a pretty ignorant take. You completely don't seem to understand the underlying issue fueling the opioid crisis.
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Solution:
Make a site only available in [insert a privacy-respecting country]
Then anyone else gets redirected to a "This website is not available in your country, please use a VPN and set it to [country]"
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Profit?
Band-aid for a gun shot wound.
We need to make the very politicians, activists, etc., who made these kinds of laws possible to fear for their lives.
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You think we have privacy??? hahaha
It's too late for that now. You're all already on a list somewhere.
This is not full on censorship, it's not a black and white issue. The open internet and the dark web needs to be regulated for criminal, abusive, exploitative content. It's for the good of humanity in the long run. Big brother needs to save you all from yourselves. The male loneliness epidemic is already reaching crazy numbers and so is abuse against women and children but nobody in the manosphere wants to address that.
As long as they can keep crusting in moms musty basement.It's sick
I know of men who have become so addicted to it that they watch it at work and harrass their female co workers and every female around them. I see it destroying heterosexual relationships daily. I am very anti religious but please do inform me what good does porn bring? In what way is it healthy?
It's entertainment and it's been the backbone of technology evolution like it or not, read more here: https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/617469885 and I think people who enjoy to be part of that content (where legal and not abusive) deserve a platform to share it with like minded people.
I do agree that the abusive content should not be allowed on platforms, but that's already illegal in most places. Further policing is just infringing on people's rights of doing what they want with their bodies. "My body my choice" isn't just about pregnancy it's about anything a consensual adult should be able to do without being judged for it.
Fundamentally though it doesn't matter what the excuse is, prohibition never works (see war on drugs and the actual prohibition period in the US) and it leads to more people finding this type of content on websites that are not under the eye of the law, which are more likely to host abusive and illegal content. Sex and masturbation are normal for people, and have been part of culture and art for hundreds if not thousands of years. There are ways to enjoy it ethically (as we have for decades before OF) and we should pursue that, but consider for a moment that the problem is not sex and pornography itself (because we've had erotica in anything from medieval paintings to fine art photography), but the economical factors that push platforms to highlight it more and more and people to get into it for a quick buck because it sells and makes them money. Social media is nowadays full of onlyfans creators advertising their profiles, and who can fully blame them when the economy is in shambles? But really that has a way bigger impact on male loneliness than porn itself, they just bombard you with ads and ads to see explicit content even when you don't want to, and that's rewiring people's brains.
Because, and I'll entertain your puritan view for a second, where does it stop if we block porn outright? Is nude photography illegal now? showing a nipple? Uncovered belly or feet? How far will we have to go for the brain addled vices of a few people? And this is all just bandaids, because as I said before, the issue is not porn, it's those taking advantage of it to sell as much of it as possible even at the detriment of people's mental health. There is space for nuance.