Not allowing ISPs to pick and choose winners among web services is absolutely what Net Neutrality is about. Bundling or discounting subscriptions isn't technically the same thing as zero-rating, but the end result of making a particular ISP-preferred service cheaper than alternatives is the same.

This will be like Netflix pushing against shared accounts, sure it will work and their revenue will go up, but I will stop being a paying customer and will only watch videos from my notebook with adblocks.

I dont pay for it, use grayjay or firefox with ad block, I have no ads, background playing on mobile and I could care less about YouTube music.

You're just trying to piggyback on a vaguely-related concept that your audience already likely hates. Call things what they are, not what would be convenient to you if they were.

Deactivated Premium recently. I used their music app when driving – expecting some ads now - nope, it just doesn’t allow running in the background anymore.

Seems like such a hostile thing - I’d like to think running ads would be a positive net income for them. (Now that I think of it - maybe they don’t have it built out into their music service.)

Not here though. This is the good stuff

I found a neat little workaround that I used for a while. I’d load the video up in my browser, turn the phone on an off a couple times, press play on the lock screen, and enjoy it that way.

Edit:

Still works. Just gotta full screen the video and then power off before it kills picture in picture.

And now I’m listening in the background as I type this.

I found a little workaround called Newpipe.

whiteknighting

was a weak-ass criticism when it was on 4chan being leveled at anyone who said anything not derogatory about a woman, and it's weak-ass now. Oh no, someone on the internet has an at-least-partially positive opinion of a company, how awful, we'd better stereotype and body-shame them for it.

If you had your way, the only comments about YouTube - or any other product from a large company - that would be allowed would be negative ones. How the fuck does that make sense?

Even if you take YouTube premium they are still farming your data and selling it to third parties.

The big data-farmers like Google aren't selling it to third parties. It's worth far more if kept to themselves and used to build an ad platform.

Where would the money come from?

I use NewPipe on my phone (and FreeTube on my laptop)

I’ll check it out. Thank you.

I get no ads, and I’m not logged in for them to track me and sell my data.

@interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml gave me a really good suggestion the other day. If youre on Firefox, it might work for you too

Video Background Play Fix – Get this Extension for 🦊 Firefox (en-US)

Download Video Background Play Fix for Firefox. Some sites may not work with Firefox for Android video background play feature. This add-on provides a quick fix by blocking the Page Visibility API and the Fullscreen API.

(addons.mozilla.org)

I just have the video running on Firefox and can them go to another App / turn off the screen

Ad-free subscription services that actually benefit the creators are exceedingly rare.

Believe it or not, YouTube Premium is one of them. A Premium view is worth more than an ad-supported view to a creator.

(Obviously Patreon is better, as they can’t make a living off of only Premium views because it’s a smaller group; the population of ad-supported users is much much larger. But YouTube Premium does benefit the creators more than ad-supported YouTube does.)

I use a VPN so yeah that's not going to work.

I just pirate it

It used to just work. Then it only worked with a funny work around. Now I don't care because I pirate their content instead.

That’s fair