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YouTube is now flagging accounts on Premium family plans that aren't in the same household

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  • Which only works If you were in the same Network atleast for me

    After I made my comment I saw someone else make a comment about getting a message saying that. I never did. Mine just worked. Weird.

  • Yt-dlp doesn’t pirate YouTube videos… it downloads them directly from YouTube.

  • NewPipe does this for free

    I don’t have an android

  • I keep trying to convert my friends to using Firefox mobile for this reason. I generally try not to evangelise too much, but I have so many friends who keep complaining about ads when browsing the internet on mobile, and this would literally solve their problem. One friend complained about ads so frequently that they ended up getting irked at me telling them the problem was solvable. Our unhappy compromise was that I would stop telling them to use Firefox and uBO if they stopped complaining about this so much in front of me.

    I respect their choices, but by God, I'm baffled by them. I get that inertia makes it hard to make switches like this, but when you're spending so much time complaining about how much effort it takes to use the internet on your mobile, why would you not just solve the problem?

    I had someone say "Well, yours doesn't do ads" and, in the year of 5 manufacturers pumping out 10 different SKUs a year, we had the same model phone.

    I said "Yours doesn't have to, if you set it up that way."

    The answer? "Well, c'mon, play the video."

    Like, yeah, let's just brush past the... What? Five or six tap solution? And before anyone asks, not a romantic opening. Generally people don't make passes at bridge trolls who evangelize for open source software.

  • You won't find many people on this platform not lining his pockets.

    Oh I know, I’ve seen a lot of “Billionaires are evil, but not MY billionaire. DAE buy 50 games during the steam sale you’ll never play LOL?”

  • Not in my case. I watch one vid per year or so, and I block everything google. They don't know jack.

    And props to the dedicated folks still running Invidious instances like https://yewtu.be

  • For those select few that have an iPhone

    You have a few options:

    • be EU citizen and sideload a cracked YouTube (similar to vanced, but you need certificates on iOS which sucks)
    • pay for a dev account and sideload regardless of above
    • buy two apps: vinegar and AdGuard. AdGuard speaks for itself, vinegar is a tool that forces YouTube to use the html 5 player inside of safari and thus forcing it to your will

    I know iPhones are hated here, but I saw the android will stop sideloading coming from a mile away. At least here in the eu apple can suck one and I can still sideload whatever I want

    Vinegar seems awesome. Thanks!
    Also, the dev’s other apps are pretty amazing too!

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    "There aren't enough seeds for these AI training data torrents we've been downloading. Anybody got any ideas?"

  • Ahh classic, punishing paying costumers while pirates don't have to deal with any of this shit. I guess the beatings will continue until profits increase!

    punishing paying costumers

    Time to dress up as a pirate I guess.

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    My entire extended family shares a single household and a single Internet connection. /s

  • While steam has historically been "good", doesn't mean it'll stay that way...

    It's mostly that a feature on it went from "okayish" to "far more consumer-friendly", which was incredibly unexpected of them to do. Everyone figured Steam library sharing would die but instead they roll out Family that has far looser restrictions than the system they'd had for over a decade.

    Can't play the same game at the same time unless both own it, and DLC isn't shared, but my partner being able to play anything I own that I'm not playing is pretty rad of a positive change.

    Meanwhile Nintendo's system got worse instead.

  • Gabe Newell is 62 years old. Gonna enjoy this gravy train while we can...

    My understanding is that gaben has already put an action plan in place for when the company moves on from his leadership.

    From what I've heard of it, the people in line behind Gabe will be upholding the same values.

    We should have at least another ~40 years or more of this before sometimes entitled brat inherits the company and sells it off to a foreign interest.

    With all that being said: long live gaben.

  • Good thing I am never going to go youtube premium.

    I think that's the point.

    They've had such trouble even selling YouTube premium that now they're making it even less worthwhile, and expecting people to still buy it...

    I don't know what companies don't get. Family means so many different things and they're trying to dictate and control what it means to be a family. They don't get to decide that. Many people I consider to be family, have zero blood relation to me, but they've stood by me like brothers and sisters when shit goes down, often staying to help long after my blood relatives, have abandoned me. The people I share a bloodline with are simply not as much of a family to me as these people I grew up with, and have stuck with me through thick and thin.

    If I buy a "family" plan of anything, I expect that the family I've chosen can be among the people I can share that plan with. If I'm paying for a personal plan and sharing it with others, I get it, fair game. But if I'm specifically buying it because I can share it with family, then let me share it with family, or fuck the fuck off with that bullshit.

    Sorry, bit of a rant, I know everyone here already knows this so I'm preaching to the choir.

    Be well.

  • If you pay, the platform remains great. I get a discounted YouTube premium membership through my mobile phone company. I think YouTube is great, I never see ads, lots of features.

    Just to offer an alternative view.

    I'm OK with your opinion and I appreciate hearing an alternate view to offset the echo chamber effect.

    But for a lot of us, or at least me, its far deeper than just cost and ads.

    It's the fact that steps keep being taken to make the platform worse. They don't want the platform usable unless you pay, and in this case they're even taking a stab at the people who pay...you don't pay enough in their mind.

    If they had balls, they would just make it a closed platform. Pay to access, and restrict that per account IP. But they'd rather gaslight everybody and slowly turn up he heat so the frogs don't jump out of the pot. This way they maximize their profits for longer.
    Point of all of that is, they don't care about he platform or service at all.

    For me, its not even about that. Their algorithm was so jacked up I was sick of being fed videos I didn't want to see over and over, and videos I've already watched over and over. That's why they added the subscription bell...because you would subscribe to things you wanted to watch and they never showed it to you. It wasn't "you" tube it was "their" tube.

    I bailed on them years ago. I still watch some content on there because there really isn't a viable alternative. I use a scraper that gives me a feed of just what I want and without ads. I watch what I like and move on with my day. I'm back in control of my video viewing.

  • you need certificates on iOS which suck

    I can still sideload whatever I want

    ??

    ergo, there are extra steps, which is a pita, but not insurmountable.

  • 🙂

    Top web search results for “adblock test”—the top two, both, are usually good to both run (though I’ve never been too scientific about it)! One tries to show ads for your review, the other gives a % blocked.

    I’m getting the same scores/results for Safari + uBOL and Orion + uBO but I’ll stick with safari for a bit just for a change in pace.

  • If you pay, the platform remains great. I get a discounted YouTube premium membership through my mobile phone company. I think YouTube is great, I never see ads, lots of features.

    Just to offer an alternative view.

    Weird number of downvotes here -- I thought they were meant for low-effort or non contributive comments, not an "I disagree" button. This person is giving a unique perspective as a subscriber (in this thread, anyway) and should be met with curiosity, I think. It is helpful to know that there are people who enjoy paying for it, so thanks for giving your opinion here.

    I disagree because they have a dominant position for reasons other than having a good product -- they squash competition trying to make the space better while themselves actively making it worse. Subscribing means supporting that style of inhibiting innovation, not to mention the other user-hostile practices they embrace (extend, extinguish). They are an ad company and obligated to make a profit, I get that, but I refuse to abide this style of using investor money to operate at a loss for years while deceptively capturing the market before raising prices. If your product is good, it shouldn't need to be artificially propped up.

  • Amazon is doing the exact same thing. Just got an email today that they're shutting down the family Prime sharing thing. Had that for ten years now.

    I really think corporations are starting to overplay their hands here. People don't need Prime as much as Amazon thinks they do, people don't need YouTube as much as Google thinks they do, and so on. Especially in the case of YT, yeah, turns out it's easy to compete when your service is free. But once it gets freemium enough, things like Peertube start to take a place on the optimal frontier. Right now Peertube only competes with YouTube if you're sensitive to the dimension of a service being centralized or not, most people don't give a shit about that. But the dimension of cost and ads? Enshittify YouTube too much and suddenly Peertube has its place for anyone who cares about money or time (i.e everyone).

    And Prime? Don't think people won't start just going to stores again, or buying directly from producers. At least if I go to an actual website to buy my stuff I don't need to worry about getting ripped off by some drop-ship fake brand garbage.

    People love their little conveniences and will try to hang on to them, sure...but I think this could really start to backfire if they push it much further.

  • Firefox + ublock origin still works to block all YouTube ads

    Invidious is a frontend for YouTube that blocks all their trackers and ads

    PeerTube is an alternative community ran platform to replace YouTube in the future

    I really wanted to like and use Peertube more, but it's so devoid of any content aside from political podcasts, as far as I can tell. I can't tell if the search function is bad, or I'm using it wrong, or there really is just that little content. Any recommendations for Peertube content?

  • Weird number of downvotes here -- I thought they were meant for low-effort or non contributive comments, not an "I disagree" button. This person is giving a unique perspective as a subscriber (in this thread, anyway) and should be met with curiosity, I think. It is helpful to know that there are people who enjoy paying for it, so thanks for giving your opinion here.

    I disagree because they have a dominant position for reasons other than having a good product -- they squash competition trying to make the space better while themselves actively making it worse. Subscribing means supporting that style of inhibiting innovation, not to mention the other user-hostile practices they embrace (extend, extinguish). They are an ad company and obligated to make a profit, I get that, but I refuse to abide this style of using investor money to operate at a loss for years while deceptively capturing the market before raising prices. If your product is good, it shouldn't need to be artificially propped up.

    but I refuse to abide this style of using investor money to operate at a loss for years while deceptively capturing the market before raising prices.

    Indeed, no company should be praised or rewarded for emulating the moves that made companies like Walmart and Amazon big.

    This capitalist hellscape would be slightly more tolerable if there was ample competition in every space. Companies need to be motivated to make their profit in ways that please the consumer, but also in ways that are increasingly more ethical.

    But truly, as they say, there is no ethical consumption under capitalism. Modern slavery and third-world exploitation...even literal child slavery are rampant in our supply chains and offshore manufacturing.

    Even Google indirectly uses child slavery. The court threw the case raised against them (and other giants) out last year because these companies simply purchase "unspecified amounts" of cobalt through "global supply chains" - never mind how it came to be on the global supply chain to begin with and how much obscene profit these companies make off these resources.

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    That's weird, I can still access all my main sites on the surface with no VPN. One site's mirror hasn't even changed domain. I still haven't seen any proof of these attacks on the legal side
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    It was a failed attempt. I get that. You can drop it now.
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    I actually wouldn't enjoy talking to most people at work, because that would involve going there instead of doing it from the computer where I already am
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    So first, even here we see foundation money and big tech, not government. Facebook, Google, etc mostly love net neutrality, tolerate encryption, anf see utility in anonymous internet access, mostly because these things don't interfere with their core advertising businesses, and generally have helped them. I didn't see Comcast and others in the ISP oligopoly on that list, probably because they would not benefit from net neutrality, encryption, and privacy for obvious reasons. The EFF advocates for particular civil libertarian policies, always has. That does attract certain donors, but not others. They have plenty of diverse and grassroots support too. One day they may have to choose between their corpo donors and their values, but I have yet to see them abandon principles.
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    This is a weirdly aggressive take without considering variables. Almost petulant seeming. 6” readers are relatively cheap no matter the brand, but cost goes up with size. $250 to $300 is what a 7.8” or 8” reader costs, but there’s not a single one I know of at 6” at that price. There’s 10” and 13” models. Are you saying they should cost the same as a Kindle? Not to mention, regarding Kindle, Amazon spent years building the brand but selling either at cost or possibly even taking a loss on the devices as they make money on the book sales. Companies who can’t do that tend to charge more. Lastly, it’s not “feature creep” to improve the devices over time, many changes are quality of life. Larger displays for those that want them. Frontlit displays, and later the addition of warm lighting. Displays essentially doubled their resolution allowing for crisper fonts and custom fonts to render well. Higher contrast displays with darker blacks for text. More recently color displays as an option. This is all progress, but it’s not free. Also, inflation is a thing and generally happens at a rate of 2% to 3% annually or thereabouts during “normal” times, and we’ve hardly been living in normal times over the last decade and a half.
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    Premium supported. You get plenty with the free tier, but you get lots more with paid.
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    I really wish their whole lap-dock concept had succeeded. Or at least ran a few more generations, so I could get an upgraded model with USBc