It's called Premium Family, not Premium Household for fuck's sake.

It also works with other stuff besides YouTube. You can download porn with it with yt-dlp https://xvideos.com/insert-porn-video-123

After I made my comment I saw someone else make a comment about getting a message saying that. I never did. Mine just worked. Weird.

Yt-dlp doesn’t pirate YouTube videos… it downloads them directly from YouTube.

I don’t have an android

I had someone say "Well, yours doesn't do ads" and, in the year of 5 manufacturers pumping out 10 different SKUs a year, we had the same model phone.

I said "Yours doesn't have to, if you set it up that way."

The answer? "Well, c'mon, play the video."

Like, yeah, let's just brush past the... What? Five or six tap solution? And before anyone asks, not a romantic opening. Generally people don't make passes at bridge trolls who evangelize for open source software.

Oh I know, I’ve seen a lot of “Billionaires are evil, but not MY billionaire. DAE buy 50 games during the steam sale you’ll never play LOL?”

And props to the dedicated folks still running Invidious instances like https://yewtu.be

Vinegar seems awesome. Thanks!
Also, the dev’s other apps are pretty amazing too!

"There aren't enough seeds for these AI training data torrents we've been downloading. Anybody got any ideas?"

punishing paying costumers

Time to dress up as a pirate I guess.

My entire extended family shares a single household and a single Internet connection. /s

It's mostly that a feature on it went from "okayish" to "far more consumer-friendly", which was incredibly unexpected of them to do. Everyone figured Steam library sharing would die but instead they roll out Family that has far looser restrictions than the system they'd had for over a decade.

Can't play the same game at the same time unless both own it, and DLC isn't shared, but my partner being able to play anything I own that I'm not playing is pretty rad of a positive change.

Meanwhile Nintendo's system got worse instead.

My understanding is that gaben has already put an action plan in place for when the company moves on from his leadership.

From what I've heard of it, the people in line behind Gabe will be upholding the same values.

We should have at least another ~40 years or more of this before sometimes entitled brat inherits the company and sells it off to a foreign interest.

With all that being said: long live gaben.

I think that's the point.

They've had such trouble even selling YouTube premium that now they're making it even less worthwhile, and expecting people to still buy it...

I don't know what companies don't get. Family means so many different things and they're trying to dictate and control what it means to be a family. They don't get to decide that. Many people I consider to be family, have zero blood relation to me, but they've stood by me like brothers and sisters when shit goes down, often staying to help long after my blood relatives, have abandoned me. The people I share a bloodline with are simply not as much of a family to me as these people I grew up with, and have stuck with me through thick and thin.

If I buy a "family" plan of anything, I expect that the family I've chosen can be among the people I can share that plan with. If I'm paying for a personal plan and sharing it with others, I get it, fair game. But if I'm specifically buying it because I can share it with family, then let me share it with family, or fuck the fuck off with that bullshit.

Sorry, bit of a rant, I know everyone here already knows this so I'm preaching to the choir.

Be well.

I'm OK with your opinion and I appreciate hearing an alternate view to offset the echo chamber effect.

But for a lot of us, or at least me, its far deeper than just cost and ads.

It's the fact that steps keep being taken to make the platform worse. They don't want the platform usable unless you pay, and in this case they're even taking a stab at the people who pay...you don't pay enough in their mind.

If they had balls, they would just make it a closed platform. Pay to access, and restrict that per account IP. But they'd rather gaslight everybody and slowly turn up he heat so the frogs don't jump out of the pot. This way they maximize their profits for longer.
Point of all of that is, they don't care about he platform or service at all.

For me, its not even about that. Their algorithm was so jacked up I was sick of being fed videos I didn't want to see over and over, and videos I've already watched over and over. That's why they added the subscription bell...because you would subscribe to things you wanted to watch and they never showed it to you. It wasn't "you" tube it was "their" tube.

I bailed on them years ago. I still watch some content on there because there really isn't a viable alternative. I use a scraper that gives me a feed of just what I want and without ads. I watch what I like and move on with my day. I'm back in control of my video viewing.

ergo, there are extra steps, which is a pita, but not insurmountable.

I’m getting the same scores/results for Safari + uBOL and Orion + uBO but I’ll stick with safari for a bit just for a change in pace.

Weird number of downvotes here -- I thought they were meant for low-effort or non contributive comments, not an "I disagree" button. This person is giving a unique perspective as a subscriber (in this thread, anyway) and should be met with curiosity, I think. It is helpful to know that there are people who enjoy paying for it, so thanks for giving your opinion here.

I disagree because they have a dominant position for reasons other than having a good product -- they squash competition trying to make the space better while themselves actively making it worse. Subscribing means supporting that style of inhibiting innovation, not to mention the other user-hostile practices they embrace (extend, extinguish). They are an ad company and obligated to make a profit, I get that, but I refuse to abide this style of using investor money to operate at a loss for years while deceptively capturing the market before raising prices. If your product is good, it shouldn't need to be artificially propped up.

I really think corporations are starting to overplay their hands here. People don't need Prime as much as Amazon thinks they do, people don't need YouTube as much as Google thinks they do, and so on. Especially in the case of YT, yeah, turns out it's easy to compete when your service is free. But once it gets freemium enough, things like Peertube start to take a place on the optimal frontier. Right now Peertube only competes with YouTube if you're sensitive to the dimension of a service being centralized or not, most people don't give a shit about that. But the dimension of cost and ads? Enshittify YouTube too much and suddenly Peertube has its place for anyone who cares about money or time (i.e everyone).

And Prime? Don't think people won't start just going to stores again, or buying directly from producers. At least if I go to an actual website to buy my stuff I don't need to worry about getting ripped off by some drop-ship fake brand garbage.

People love their little conveniences and will try to hang on to them, sure...but I think this could really start to backfire if they push it much further.