Let Google know what you think about their proposed restrictions on sideloading Android apps. - Android developer verification requirements [Feedback Form]
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I couldn't tell from the article, but does this impact ALL apps that do NOT go through the Google Play Store?
What about 3rd party App Stores? Amazon has one, there is also the FOSS app stores like F-Droid. Are those in or out?
I have a feeling that this is a retaliation for those as Epic is leading a charge against Google Play, and rightly so, not that they are an ally. I just like watching pigs fight.
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I couldn't tell from the article, but does this impact ALL apps that do NOT go through the Google Play Store?
What about 3rd party App Stores? Amazon has one, there is also the FOSS app stores like F-Droid. Are those in or out?
F-Droid would likely be out because they rebuild many apps from source.
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I couldn't tell from the article, but does this impact ALL apps that do NOT go through the Google Play Store?
What about 3rd party App Stores? Amazon has one, there is also the FOSS app stores like F-Droid. Are those in or out?
as long as your phone have GMS preinstalled and listed under Google certification. this will affect you. So, Chinese phone without GMS is fine.
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Source of feedback form:
https://developer.android.com/developer-verification (bottom of page)
Straight into the garbage.
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The problem I see is that the independent app market will not survive this if the audience of "normal" Android devices is gone. Most devs won't bother developing apps that are not available on the play store, so alternative roms are not a solution in most markets.
They will for the Chinese market, whatever that’s worth.
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I dunno, I'm sure there's a part of them that doesn't want to scare off all the free labor they get from the community developers. They are probably legitimately trying to gauge how much of an impact on that this will have. That doesn't mean they are going to stop or change anything, but they probably genuinely care enough to know.
I dunno, I’m sure there’s a part of them that doesn’t want to scare off all the free labor they get from the community developers.
Google’s thinking has gone short term “next quarter must go up.” They would absolutely trash their Android dev community for a quick buck, 100%.
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Public pushback on stuff like this does work on occasion. It even worked on Apple when they proposed upload filters for CSAM.
Google's intent in the short term probably is just about malware, but in the long term it gives them, and governments which can pressure them the ability to ban any app from nearly all Android devices. Once deployed, there's a near 100% chance of such a mechanism being used for evil.
Apple is a bit more receptive to bad PR, but Google has a history of kinda ignoring developer feedback, like with the JPEG XL thing as a narrow example.
This is an especially technical matter to; it’s no threat to them.
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I did it and I told them exactly why and what I use and why and hopefully they will take heed. It's not even some freakishly avoid-y reason or anything. I'm not extremist because I know that if I'm going to use a lot of this stuff I have to make compromises because it's not magically going to get better overnight, but also we have to stand up for user freedom so we have some degree of ability to actually use our devices as we wish and install software that we want on our own computer.
Were you able to sign up and give feedback without verifying your identity first?
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What will you switch to?
Some android fork
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Symbian had package signature fuckery
Another reason why it worka in place of the word death in that phrase.
My only real experience with symbian was waaaaay back when I did tech support for l Sony Ericsson, and while I was more into modding the phones (remember those days?) and playing worms on a 1.5" screen on the walkman line of phones, I did have the p900 and the p1i.
And let me tell you, OS aside, the P1i was indestructible.
One exceptionally intoxicated weekend, the gf and I got into a bit of a tiff.
She grabbed the phone and threw it out the door or the apartment, onto that polished rock type floor.
It impacted as one would expect.
Shattered into a hundred pieces.
But... The screen was the old capacitive touch type, so it was a layer of plastic with a layer of plastic with a layer of plastic with ultra thin wires with a layer of plastic with a layer of glass with a layer of plastic with a layer of metal backing, and the rest of the internals were modular with push in/flip down cable clips that easily separated. The entire body was plastic.
I laughed.
(I'd taken it apart before because mods)
I picked up the parts, put them together as I walked out and turned it back on.
Anyway, symbian.
Oh, the memories.
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The Windows phone entered the market while the market was stable, and users had little reason to move away from what they were used to and comfortable with. These days users are getting more uncomfortable, hence why Linux is on the rise. Same with the push for more liberal software (FOSS). I believe if a company can do it right, and offer a stable and comfortable alternative, they can manage to be much more successful than the Windows phone was 10 - 15 years ago.
Disclaimer: I haven't checked the statistics, but I remain optimistic, and continue making choices that align with my principles.
Linux is not on the rise lol.
People are locked in to iOS and Android. There is no appreciable number of people who would switch to another ecosystem and lose all their apps, purchases, etc.
More importantly, just like what killed Windows phone, developers won’t support a third platform, nor will customers move to a platform that doesn’t have the big apps that they need - many, if not most, of which are from Google themselves.
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Source of feedback form:
https://developer.android.com/developer-verification (bottom of page)
This is just a way to capture negative feedback in a way that leaves you feeling like you did something while impacting none of their business. Make noise on social media, not feedback forms. Make them hurt.
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That's why keywords are important. For instance I added the fact that if they continue in this course I will seek to de-Google my phones.
Like I said in another comment, unless they get tens of millions of actual unique-not-spam responses they will not even consider reconsidering. People aren’t going to de-google in any great numbers from this, because most of the people this will affect are already de-googled.
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Public pushback on stuff like this does work on occasion. It even worked on Apple when they proposed upload filters for CSAM.
Google's intent in the short term probably is just about malware, but in the long term it gives them, and governments which can pressure them the ability to ban any app from nearly all Android devices. Once deployed, there's a near 100% chance of such a mechanism being used for evil.
The malware argument falls like a house of cards when you just dig a bit nd see that Play Store is full of indiscutible malware like flashlight "apps".
