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Misogyny and Violent Extremism: Can Big Tech Fix the Glitch?

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  • I think that the only point you can hold against the big tech is that they are profiting from it. They provide one platform to disseminate but it is not that suche ideas need a social network to spread. Hitler had not social networks and like him every war/discrimination act against one group or another up until, say, 20 years ago did not need a social network.

    We can agree that maybe a social network is easier and the dissemination is faster, but in itself a social network is not strictly needed.

    You want to fix the problem ? Fix the people on both sides, it is the only option

    On both sides of what? What are you even talking about? And what other media, exactly, is providing not only a public mouthpiece to, but also driving steady streams of traffic directly toward, unabashed misogynists and bigots? I'll wait... 🙄

    You can definitely take your dogwhistles and white supremacist apologism and fuck right off with it tho 😁

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    Betteridge's Law of Headlines . . . but they're not even trying.

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    It's not a glitch.

    People have spent billions to build systems where such dissemination of crowd emotion is the main difference from the real web (what was on geocities or even LJ, and a bit of that exists in Telegram, because it's a Russian honeypot to collect intelligence, and Russia could care a bit less about keeping the line that American social media corps, in its effort to make the honeypot actually attractive to use).

    Then spent billions to advertise them. Billions to kill competition.

    Then they've lost billions from that, and yet doubled down on it.

    That just doesn't happen by accident, it's a whole era of humanity's history now. Like 20s-50s (the "bad" kind of change, with goosestepping, cult of strong people, attempts to save empires, preparations for a nuclear war, all that) and 60s-90s (the "good" kind of change, with space race, hippies in the west, Soviet official ideology being peace and unification of humanity - BTW, it's funny how the western politicians of that time freeloaded on that, never denying such a goal, but also never accepting it, thus getting the good parts without the hard ones) and then what we have.

  • If I had to give a single reason, it'd probably be because they're the ones, by and large, who are not only providing a platform for the dissemination of these abhorrent views by this trash, but they're directly profiting from it to boot... I feel like that's honestly pretty obvious, though I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt here and choose to assume you're genuinely asking and not just being facetious

    It's both honestly. Overall I think the issue is rooted more in culture. Not tech. Secondly I am starting to question the role of media in yellow journalism to sell ads online by catering to crowds

  • It's both honestly. Overall I think the issue is rooted more in culture. Not tech. Secondly I am starting to question the role of media in yellow journalism to sell ads online by catering to crowds

    Both what? Tf are you talking about??

  • Both what? Tf are you talking about??

    i think he meant to respond with that to another thread or commenter. likely just a mis-post.

  • i think he meant to respond with that to another thread or commenter. likely just a mis-post.

    I mean, I guess? I dunno, I kinda wondered that at first, but I'm also kinda at a loss at to what other comment that could be a response to as well...? 🤷♂️ I mean, it seems like it's at least in the right thread, mostly, from the context lol 😂

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    Only if it's profitable or they're forced to do so through legislation. Otherwise they won't even try.

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    Fix? Bruh, they explicitly cultivate that shit. Even if they could, they're not gonna.

  • On both sides of what? What are you even talking about? And what other media, exactly, is providing not only a public mouthpiece to, but also driving steady streams of traffic directly toward, unabashed misogynists and bigots? I'll wait... 🙄

    You can definitely take your dogwhistles and white supremacist apologism and fuck right off with it tho 😁

    On both sides of what? What are you even talking about?

    The misogynist and the peope who think to have some special right just because they are from $MINORITY_OF_THE_DAY

    And what other media, exactly, is providing not only a public mouthpiece to, but also driving steady streams of traffic directly toward, unabashed misogynists and bigots? I’ll wait… 🙄

    TV for one, or you are saying that channels like Fo New are harmless ?
    But more generally every media is suitable to spread misinformation, some better than other, and I agree that currently social media are better at the "work", but it is not that before social media we have not misinformations, misogyny and violent extremism.

    Social media is only a big resonance chamber for the $MINORITY_OF_THE_DAY that cry louder (and I am sure that you would understand why if you were not blinded by hate for tech companies) and they are getting more credit than they deserve.

    To make you understand a little better (I hope) look at all the "go woke, go broke" rethoric. It is obvious that if you make a product following the demands of, say, 5% of the potential audience you cannot expect more than 5% of the potential audience like the product (ok, maybe a little more) and everyone who can think understand this.

    But no, the $MINORITY_OF_THE_DAY must blame the social media if the product bomb, when often not even the majority of $MINORITY_OF_THE_DAY that demanded the product "use" it (be a movie, a game or whatever else) and then start to call else (the remaining 95% of the audience) misogynist and everything else just becasue they don't like what $MINORITY_OF_THE_DAY like.

    You can definitely take your dogwhistles and white supremacist apologism and fuck right off with it tho 😁

    Probably better than to discuss with you about this.

  • On both sides of what? What are you even talking about?

    The misogynist and the peope who think to have some special right just because they are from $MINORITY_OF_THE_DAY

    And what other media, exactly, is providing not only a public mouthpiece to, but also driving steady streams of traffic directly toward, unabashed misogynists and bigots? I’ll wait… 🙄

    TV for one, or you are saying that channels like Fo New are harmless ?
    But more generally every media is suitable to spread misinformation, some better than other, and I agree that currently social media are better at the "work", but it is not that before social media we have not misinformations, misogyny and violent extremism.

    Social media is only a big resonance chamber for the $MINORITY_OF_THE_DAY that cry louder (and I am sure that you would understand why if you were not blinded by hate for tech companies) and they are getting more credit than they deserve.

    To make you understand a little better (I hope) look at all the "go woke, go broke" rethoric. It is obvious that if you make a product following the demands of, say, 5% of the potential audience you cannot expect more than 5% of the potential audience like the product (ok, maybe a little more) and everyone who can think understand this.

    But no, the $MINORITY_OF_THE_DAY must blame the social media if the product bomb, when often not even the majority of $MINORITY_OF_THE_DAY that demanded the product "use" it (be a movie, a game or whatever else) and then start to call else (the remaining 95% of the audience) misogynist and everything else just becasue they don't like what $MINORITY_OF_THE_DAY like.

    You can definitely take your dogwhistles and white supremacist apologism and fuck right off with it tho 😁

    Probably better than to discuss with you about this.

    Awww did i hurt the poor wittle racist's feelings? How sad 🤣😂

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    fix it? it fucking feeds into it!

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