lemm.ee is shutting down at the end of this month
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The sad reality is that while there are a lot of great people on Lemmy, there are also some who use the platform to attack others, stir up conflict, or actively try to undermine the project. Admins are volunteers who deal with the latter group on a constant basis, this takes a mental toll. Please understand why our admins chose to step down, and be kind to the admins on whatever instance you decide to join.
It's gotten to be as bad as Facebook and Reddit, tbh. Less of a reason to use it over the competition.
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The key reason is that we just don’t have enough people on the admin team to keep the place running. Most of the admin team has stepped down, mostly due to burnout, and finding replacements hasn’t worked out.
This suuuucks. We need another big, general instance that doesn't defed everyone. But I get it, being an admin sounds like a lot of work or I would do it lol. Plus I don't have place for a server around here. Or do most admins just buy space from the cloud?
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My instance constantly gets attacked for being a "pro genocide nazi instance". Which totally is not the case, but admins and mods are trying to ensure that no content is posted that is illegal where they live. And local rules here are also quite sensible.
How often do those laws actually get enforced, especially for small online communities who are against genocide? Like I understand not wanting to run afoul of the law, even if the law is immoral, but is it a realistic risk?
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The key reason is that we just don’t have enough people on the admin team to keep the place running. Most of the admin team has stepped down, mostly due to burnout, and finding replacements hasn’t worked out.
Oh no, they got tired of abusing their power.
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Managing a federated network comes with a lot of responsibility.
Not really.
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This suuuucks. We need another big, general instance that doesn't defed everyone. But I get it, being an admin sounds like a lot of work or I would do it lol. Plus I don't have place for a server around here. Or do most admins just buy space from the cloud?
There are already instances that aren't eager to defederate to suit a few complainers.
They just need users.
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Oh no, they got tired of abusing their power.
You're the problem
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How often do those laws actually get enforced, especially for small online communities who are against genocide? Like I understand not wanting to run afoul of the law, even if the law is immoral, but is it a realistic risk?
First of all, telling admins that they should break the law and face legal risks and fines because you want it is exactly what the Lemm.ee admins are talking about. Burning out, problems with replacements and so on. And second: We are talking about content in the style of "Israel has to die, kill all the jews" and yes, people get prosecuted for that. And you really do not want stuff like that on your instance, even if your country allows it
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How often do those laws actually get enforced, especially for small online communities who are against genocide? Like I understand not wanting to run afoul of the law, even if the law is immoral, but is it a realistic risk?
Difficult question. I think it's realistic. Hate speech laws are enforced against individuals on a regular basis. If a German instance tolerated illegal content, then I expect the instance would sooner or later be involved in a prosecution. The prosecution would be against the user, though. The instance would only have to provide data to police. I'm not sure at what point the instance owners themselves would be found to violate these laws.
Apart from that, the instance is required to remove illegal content per the DSA. I think it's realistic to expect that a prosecution would lead to a closer look at the instance.
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The key reason is that we just don’t have enough people on the admin team to keep the place running. Most of the admin team has stepped down, mostly due to burnout, and finding replacements hasn’t worked out.
The double edged sword of not defederating from other instances is that the worst instaces that most block will use your space to keep shoveling their bullshit to more people.
It creats a lot of extra work for the admins/mods
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The key reason is that we just don’t have enough people on the admin team to keep the place running. Most of the admin team has stepped down, mostly due to burnout, and finding replacements hasn’t worked out.
Damn, it was like the 2/3rd most active instance
https://lemmyverse.net/ to search for a new instance
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Consider moving them to PieFed
It has powerful mod features that Lemmy does not
Are Lemmy apps compatible with piefed instances?
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Are Lemmy apps compatible with piefed instances?
Yes, all content is shared
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I’ve noticed this a ton over the last two or three months. Lemmy has become so much more negative than it was when I joined. It’s a real bummer. I can’t even imagine trying to be a mod or an admin.
Based on the uptick in "I was banned from Reddit" posts, I'm thinking that we're getting a lot more users that were banned for good reason from Reddit. Looks like Reddit has also stepped up their game in their ability to keep those users off their platform.
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Consider moving them to PieFed
It has powerful mod features that Lemmy does not
I really like the "Feeds" feature of PieFed, it allows anyone to combine all of the different communities into a single feed. It really makes browsing something like "Technology" a lot better.
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Based on the uptick in "I was banned from Reddit" posts, I'm thinking that we're getting a lot more users that were banned for good reason from Reddit. Looks like Reddit has also stepped up their game in their ability to keep those users off their platform.
Oh that’s an interesting thought that I hadn’t had.
Hopefully we aren’t becoming the containment board.
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The key reason is that we just don’t have enough people on the admin team to keep the place running. Most of the admin team has stepped down, mostly due to burnout, and finding replacements hasn’t worked out.
Farewell Lemm.ee, it was a good two years.
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There are already instances that aren't eager to defederate to suit a few complainers.
They just need users.
Is yours one? I saw other people suggest Lemmy.zip, mander I think is one, and lemdr.oid or something like that.
The problem is that they tend to be smaller, which means harder to find.
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This suuuucks. We need another big, general instance that doesn't defed everyone. But I get it, being an admin sounds like a lot of work or I would do it lol. Plus I don't have place for a server around here. Or do most admins just buy space from the cloud?
Welcome to Lemmy.zip - Lemmy.zip
Hello to all of our new users. I wish we could all meet in better circumstances. The closing of lemm.ee [http://lemm.ee] is a real blow to the fediverse, and I have nothing but the greatest respect for the lemm.ee [http://lemm.ee] admin team. Lemm.ee [http://Lemm.ee] was a cornerstone of the lemmy community, and set a high bar for moderation and technical performance. Finding a home on the fediverse can be tough. Whether you’re here to lurk, post, moderate, or contribute in your own way, we’re glad you’ve joined us. Lemmy.zip might not replace what was lost, but we hope it can become a lemmy instance where you can feel at home. — Everyone should receive a welcome PM when they sign up to Lemmy.zip from the ever-present dark lord overseer friendly bot, ZippyBot. However, in case poor Zippy has been overworked and forgotten to send the PM to you, here’s some helpful information regarding Lemmy.zip! - All of our policies can be found at legal.lemmy.zip [https://legal.lemmy.zip/]. This includes our Code of Conduct. Please (please!) have a read of this. Our number 1 rule is Remember the human! (no harassment, threats, etc.). We absolutely adhere to this. Treat people with respect. - When you created your account, we set up some “Default Blocks”. If you want a more unfiltered Lemmy experience, you can head to your account settings [https://lemmy.zip/settings] and remove the blocks. You can read more about this in our Welcome Post [https://lemmy.zip/post/43] - they are currently hexbear and lemmgrad. - We have monthly updates! You can read the latest one here! [https://lemmy.zip/post/39959863]. We’re always open to suggestions if there’s anything else you’d like to see in these. - We have some metrics around federation for the curious among you. The link is in the sidebar or you can click here! [https://grafana.lemmy.zip/public-dashboards/bac0acae9cd942f88a65b1a7c94503d2] - We have our status page at status.lemmy.zip [https://status.lemmy.zip/]. In the unlikely event the server becomes sentient and starts a robot uprising, full details will be available here. Finally, your admin team is myself (Demigodrick [/u/demigodrick@lemmy.zip]), Sami [/u/sami@lemmy.zip], Druid [/u/v4ld1z@lemmy.zip], and Gazby [/u/gazby@lemmy.zip]. Please reach out to any of us if you feel you need help or support with anything. We also have a support email - hello@lemmy.zip. — If you have any questions, please let us know and we’ll do our best to answer them. Thanks, The Lemmy.zip Admin Team
(lemmy.zip)
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What happens to the communities there? Is there a way for them to automatically migrate to another instance?
I just migrated a community from Lemmy to Piefed using the migration feature, it worked quite well - Divisions by zero
Context: I tried to use the Piefed migration feature [https://piefed.social/post/667045] to migrate !barcelona@lemm.ee [/c/barcelona@lemm.ee] to !barcelona@piefed.social [/c/barcelona@piefed.social] https://piefed.social/c/barcelona [https://piefed.social/c/barcelona] now exists, with all the existing posts there, as well as the icon and description. It even moved some subscribers (there are around 100 now), from what I understand those were Piefed subscribers that got automatically moved. The one caveat is that from Lemmy instances, the community doesn’t have show old posts (see https://lemm.ee/c/barcelona@piefed.social [/c/barcelona@piefed.social] [https://lemm.ee/c/barcelona@piefed.social]), but if you were restarting a community from scratch you wouldn’t have access to your old posts anyway. This ensure that at least the posts are transferred to a community on an active instance, which is probably the main concern for lemm.ee [http://lemm.ee] communities at the moment.
(lemmy.dbzer0.com)
