Study: Remote working benefits fathers while childless men miss sense of community
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I’m not going to deny that some people enjoy going to work and enjoy interacting with their coworkers, but this feels like it’s missing the forest for the trees. What about the affects commuting has on one’s civic engagement in their actual community?
“There’s a simple rule of thumb: Every ten minutes of commuting results in ten per cent fewer social connections. Commuting is connected to social isolation, which causes unhappiness.”
https://archive.ph/2020.02.27-211238/https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2007/04/16/there-and-back-againI broadly agree, but I think there's a bit of a "correlation is not causation" effect at play, too
I would expect people who are very career-focused would prioritise socialising less, and also be more willing to do a long commute for a job they are highly invested in. But the reduced socialising wouldn't necessarily be caused by the commuting (not entirely, at least).
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Childless man here, I work mostly remotely.
I don't miss any sense of community.
Agreed. This article sounds like the kind of BS corporate media's trying to parrot to gaslight us into giving up WFH.
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I’m a childless man and I don’t miss the sense of community one bit.
Same here, much prefer the peace and quiet as well as avoiding the complication & stress of maintaining a personal relationship that may or may not last. As long as I have my dog with me I'm never lonely.
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Fathers versus childless men, rather than husbands vs unmarried men. Telling.
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Childless man here, I work mostly remotely.
I don't miss any sense of community.
Same. I came here to make the exact same comment.
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i'm skeptical of any study that concludes anyone would rather deal with all the bullshit of working in the office rather than wfh
no one goes to work for the "community," which can also be gotten literally anywhere other than work
sounds like something corporate slavedriving senior executives decided they wanted a "study" on to prove people want to work in the office
which can also be gotten literally anywhere other than work
Can it? For absolutely everyone, regardless of (mental) health? No one benefits from being monetarily pressured to interact with people even if the interaction is only surface level?
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Fathers versus childless men, rather than husbands vs unmarried men. Telling.
What does it tell
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What does it tell
It's clearly telling that the study is looking at men with regards to their possession of a child or an infant of some kind, rather than regarding wether they take part in some sort of commited marital relationship or partnership
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It's clearly telling that the study is looking at men with regards to their possession of a child or an infant of some kind, rather than regarding wether they take part in some sort of commited marital relationship or partnership
It’s a different world.
With a kid you get to know other parents, lots of social activities and people you are around.
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which can also be gotten literally anywhere other than work
Can it? For absolutely everyone, regardless of (mental) health? No one benefits from being monetarily pressured to interact with people even if the interaction is only surface level?
ok. the reasons someone might actually want to go to work in the office (e.g., can't interact with people who aren't getting paid to interact) are not the same reasons CEOs want to force you to work in the office (control; oversight; subjugation)
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Come on, work being the sole source of community is the problem here. What are we even talking about?
No one said “sole.” It’s about a sense of community between you and your coworkers, which is a very real and normal thing. It’s spelled out in the article very clearly:
losing that sense of workplace community had a greater impact on childless men
“Workplace community.”
I’m a dad working remote and I love the benefits but I ALSO miss the sense of community with my coworkers which I used to get from lunches together, sharing the train ride home, or just working side by side at our desks.
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I’m a childless man and I don’t miss the sense of community one bit.
I’m a dad and I do. Our anecdotal stories have been registered!
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Would they equally write 'mothers' vs. 'childless women' in another article about remote work, I wonder.
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Childless man here, I work mostly remotely.
I don't miss any sense of community.
Same. I’ve always hated office culture and don’t miss it one bit.
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As a childless man, fuck no I don’t.
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I'm a childless man and FUCK that, the office isn't my social scene. I don't care to drive in there just to talk to the same people in person. ZERO point in doing that. We have meetings electronically and that's more than enough.
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As a childless man, they will have to pry my work from home out of my cold, lots of free time having hands.
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I'm a childless man and FUCK that, the office isn't my social scene. I don't care to drive in there just to talk to the same people in person. ZERO point in doing that. We have meetings electronically and that's more than enough.
They're all jerks anyways
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Mmmm I am a childless man, and I live by myself, and I am 100% cool with that, and feel fine. But to be fair, I’ve got a pretty good circle of friends, and a really strong core friend group.
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No we don't. Work is work, not fucking community.
