YouTube’s new anti-adblock measures
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Look, there's people who host videos that we must watch at any cost. But not really any cost, because we don't feel we should pay, or watch ads... or anything, really. But we deserve to watch these videos. It's our right. We're entitled damn it!
So we're going to barge into this place and watch videos while blocking ads. We're going to use tools to watch through the windows. We're going to smuggle content out of the building.
Because we need these videos. We'll modify our browsers, install new apps, change our habits, fight pointless fights, get accounts terminated...
But we're not going to pay a dime. It's not like Youtube means anything to us. Gross! We'd just leave if there was no choice. We'd just go to... somewhere else. These guys don't have a hold on us.
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Look, there's people who host videos that we must watch at any cost. But not really any cost, because we don't feel we should pay, or watch ads... or anything, really. But we deserve to watch these videos. It's our right. We're entitled damn it!
So we're going to barge into this place and watch videos while blocking ads. We're going to use tools to watch through the windows. We're going to smuggle content out of the building.
Because we need these videos. We'll modify our browsers, install new apps, change our habits, fight pointless fights, get accounts terminated...
But we're not going to pay a dime. It's not like Youtube means anything to us. Gross! We'd just leave if there was no choice. We'd just go to... somewhere else. These guys don't have a hold on us.
Devil's advocate: if you do things the legit way, absorb the ads or go for the pay tiers, do you think there's ever a point the advertisers and platforms say "this is the right amount of ads." ? Seems like it's an infinite process of cramming in more garbage. Personally I'm happy to engage in the arms race because it's not bothersome to me personally, and I'm fine with some "theft" as long as I'm paying back into the creators by whatever their preferred support structure is.
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Imagine going through the interview process, like 10 rounds or whatever leetcode bullshit, and being told you are going to be working on /blocking Ads-Blocker users/...
Fuck it, I am out of here!
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I'm not going to disable my VPN, I'll try again later to see if it's fixed.
Just curious, why are you resistant to turn off your VPN?
I keep mine off most of the time & only rev it up when I feel like I really want or need the anonymity.
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I watched YouTube ads.
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When they got to be too much I stopped watching.
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Then I added uBlock Origin and NoScript (even on YouTube I block some scripts) and went back to watching.
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When bazillions of content creators started over-creating content just for revenue, and not to provide value, I started watching less and less.
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Now content creators are producing even more garbage via AI, and now I only watch a very few real-world content creators and videos more than 2 years old. Everything else I watch on other sites. If a content creator also posts to other sites, I watch them there and not on YT.
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it’s getting hard to keep up with the changes YT does and especially as an ios uYou+ or ytLite user (like me) as now you need a jailbroken device that needs to be on an ios version that support the last youtube app version and decrypt and build the modded app with this whole workflow…
Before you ask I’m ios because reasons and need to be on it until apple drops support for my iphone 12 pro. I miss Android…
Why not just use Brave, which blocks ads and allows for picture-in-picture and background play?
Do you need to download for offline play or similar?
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Devil's advocate: if you do things the legit way, absorb the ads or go for the pay tiers, do you think there's ever a point the advertisers and platforms say "this is the right amount of ads." ? Seems like it's an infinite process of cramming in more garbage. Personally I'm happy to engage in the arms race because it's not bothersome to me personally, and I'm fine with some "theft" as long as I'm paying back into the creators by whatever their preferred support structure is.
I started using adblockers when I got tired of scraping my PC clean of malware every week, but kept YouTube whitelisted.
The third time they tried to show me a 27 minute ad I gave up and blocked them too. -
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I watched YouTube ads.
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When they got to be too much I stopped watching.
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Then I added uBlock Origin and NoScript (even on YouTube I block some scripts) and went back to watching.
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When bazillions of content creators started over-creating content just for revenue, and not to provide value, I started watching less and less.
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Now content creators are producing even more garbage via AI, and now I only watch a very few real-world content creators and videos more than 2 years old. Everything else I watch on other sites. If a content creator also posts to other sites, I watch them there and not on YT.
What other sites can you recommend?
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If you have access to a command line, yt-dlp.
How can you have no access to a command line? Also yt-dlp has lots of UI frontends.
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I finally had to update (19.16.39 --> 20.12.46) and repatch my YouTube on Android via ReVanced. I'll probably need to do that again in 6 months. I use uBlock Origin and LibreWolf on PC and SmartTube on my TV. I hope Google understands I won't be watching YouTube with ads.
ReVanced
Continuing the legacy of Vanced. ReVanced has 40 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub.
GitHub (github.com)
LibreWolf
Codeberg is a non-profit, community-led organization that aims to help free and open source projects prosper by giving them a safe and friendly home.
Codeberg.org (codeberg.org)
uBlock Origin – Get this Extension for 🦊 Firefox (en-US)
Download uBlock Origin for Firefox. Finally, an efficient wide-spectrum content blocker. Easy on CPU and memory.
(addons.mozilla.org)
Add in sponsorblock as well. Its an extension that autoskips "inline" ads that creators do in video. It uses community input to know when to skip, and is excellent. You can also submit ad time stamps very easily to help out millions of people.
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Imagine going through the interview process, like 10 rounds or whatever leetcode bullshit, and being told you are going to be working on /blocking Ads-Blocker users/...
Fuck it, I am out of here!
Imagine applying to work on the youtube team because you enjoy watching videos and then you are expected to make it worse for everyone including yourself.
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Look, there's people who host videos that we must watch at any cost. But not really any cost, because we don't feel we should pay, or watch ads... or anything, really. But we deserve to watch these videos. It's our right. We're entitled damn it!
So we're going to barge into this place and watch videos while blocking ads. We're going to use tools to watch through the windows. We're going to smuggle content out of the building.
Because we need these videos. We'll modify our browsers, install new apps, change our habits, fight pointless fights, get accounts terminated...
But we're not going to pay a dime. It's not like Youtube means anything to us. Gross! We'd just leave if there was no choice. We'd just go to... somewhere else. These guys don't have a hold on us.
100%
People love to discuss these fantasy realms where ad-free decentralized content forms some kind of Utopia that we all enjoy.
I'm a former content creator with millions and millions of hours of (e watched hours of) video. I have answered hundreds of comments from people who would like to suggest that my mic is better, or I use a better video camera, better lighting...
When I say hey I'd love to, can you donate a dollar so I can buy them... Crickets.
I can honestly say I never made a fucking sent on YouTube and it's the users that are to blame. They view it as this free thing that they should be entitled. Contribute nothing willingly.
There is a huge difference between the ethical stance people portray in their online comments, and people's in real life behavior.
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From the Grayjay FAQ:
Does Grayjay require a subscription?
No, We offer a way to pay for the app once. The app will function identically without paying.
I paid the one for the FUTO Keyboard, is that the same? Anywho, great job on both apps
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Add in sponsorblock as well. Its an extension that autoskips "inline" ads that creators do in video. It uses community input to know when to skip, and is excellent. You can also submit ad time stamps very easily to help out millions of people.
Good advice! I use SponsorBlock too. Revanced and SmartTube have it integrated by default. LibreWolf/Firefox just need the extension installed. Its saved me hours (probably days at this point) of sitting through bullshit. Cheers!
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Today i was looking through the top popular shorts in a private tab. It was so depressing there were countless AI slop videos getting 300m views.
People just dont care. Its why I love Lemmy, here the people care about the tech they use and content they consume. People here have standards. But most people arent like that and eventually everyone will be designed for them and there won't be anything for us and there will be less and less people like us. I love technology and I hate what's happening to tech so much.
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Today i was looking through the top popular shorts in a private tab. It was so depressing there were countless AI slop videos getting 300m views.
People just dont care. Its why I love Lemmy, here the people care about the tech they use and content they consume. People here have standards. But most people arent like that and eventually everyone will be designed for them and there won't be anything for us and there will be less and less people like us. I love technology and I hate what's happening to tech so much.
On the other hand, I really do wonder how many of those 300m views were also not human views.
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What other sites can you recommend?
Nebula has some of the best educational content, especially ever since Tom Scott went on to other things. There are definitely some weird ones on there, as well as a couple which I'm convinced are right-wing shills, but by and large many of the best edutainment channels have collected over there, especially if you're into writing/world building. HAI/Wendover, Minutephysics, legaleagle, extracredits, nilered, and hellofutureme are the big ones I'm aware of that are also popular on YouTube which publish their videos over on Nebula. It's well worth it to know that you're supporting them more directly, and no ads.
Also, dropout (nee collegehumor) is worth it.
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Nebula has some of the best educational content, especially ever since Tom Scott went on to other things. There are definitely some weird ones on there, as well as a couple which I'm convinced are right-wing shills, but by and large many of the best edutainment channels have collected over there, especially if you're into writing/world building. HAI/Wendover, Minutephysics, legaleagle, extracredits, nilered, and hellofutureme are the big ones I'm aware of that are also popular on YouTube which publish their videos over on Nebula. It's well worth it to know that you're supporting them more directly, and no ads.
Also, dropout (nee collegehumor) is worth it.
Add Real Life Lore to the Nebula list, great for understanding current geopolitics and conflicts
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Meanwhile on Newpipe: just another day with no ads.
Both newpipe and pipepipe fail from time to time due to "being caught". You can go days or weeks with them failing to load videos, then they update and things work again, until google fucks them again, rinse and repeat
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Look, there's people who host videos that we must watch at any cost. But not really any cost, because we don't feel we should pay, or watch ads... or anything, really. But we deserve to watch these videos. It's our right. We're entitled damn it!
So we're going to barge into this place and watch videos while blocking ads. We're going to use tools to watch through the windows. We're going to smuggle content out of the building.
Because we need these videos. We'll modify our browsers, install new apps, change our habits, fight pointless fights, get accounts terminated...
But we're not going to pay a dime. It's not like Youtube means anything to us. Gross! We'd just leave if there was no choice. We'd just go to... somewhere else. These guys don't have a hold on us.
Ive been around for a lot longer than them offering to let you pay for better service. Adblocking for quite a while was literally a malware concern
Then I paid a bit extra with my phone service to get the premium, which at the cost it was felt like proper value. Then Google took that perk away while charging me the same amount, demanding their price hiked Premium cost to keep using their service, or I could go back to ad blocking
Google did this to themselves, homie
